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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:51 AM Jan 2019

Trump does NOT care about hurting people. So how can dems get govt working???

If your opponent does NOT care how much harm he does, what can you do?

And now we learn he's getting the FBI and federal courts shut down.

Does that mean no one can bring a case against him? File complaints with FBI?

It's Trump's ideal world. Do whatever he wants and not have to face any consequences.

I do not see how with someone like Trump we can survive without dems (who actually do care about suffering of others and a functioning govt) giving up more than we can afford.

The kidnapper is pushing in the knife. What do the police do? Maybe they'll get the kidnapper--but the hostage may end up bleeding to death on the floor.

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Trump does NOT care about hurting people. So how can dems get govt working??? (Original Post) bobbieinok Jan 2019 OP
got to get something that hurts him... Javaman Jan 2019 #1
Shut down the airports YessirAtsaFact Jan 2019 #2
This!!!! LovingA2andMI Jan 2019 #4
That might be the only solution. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2019 #8
#WheresMitch... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #3
We have no choice at ths point. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #7
McConnell votes for Deripaska, not U.S. workers Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #9
Dems don't need Trump if they can pressure Senate Republicans into doing something. DetlefK Jan 2019 #5
Let it ride out. David__77 Jan 2019 #6
We can't give in... that loss would never be forgiven. Joe941 Jan 2019 #10
Congressman Schiff-trump is treating US govt workers like he treated vendors Gothmog Jan 2019 #11

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
4. This!!!!
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jan 2019

The TSA and Air Traffic Controllers should walk off the job and shut down the airports as a result.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
3. #WheresMitch...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:59 AM
Jan 2019

McConnell could generate a veto-proof majority in the Senate, and I'm pretty sure the House could get one too.

Maybe we should concentrate on hurting Mitch McConnell.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,337 posts)
9. McConnell votes for Deripaska, not U.S. workers
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jan 2019

Wish the damned news would focus on that, instead of "both sides".

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. Dems don't need Trump if they can pressure Senate Republicans into doing something.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jan 2019

The bills passed by the democratic House have a good chance of passing the republican Senate with veto-proof (66) majority.

That's why McConnell refuses to let them come up for a vote.



Currently ~60% of people blame Trump, ~35% blame the Democrats and ~5% blame the Republicans for the shutdown. That's why the Republicans won't do anything: they are safe from public wrath and actually doing anything could tie them to Trump's bad approval-numbers.

If the Dems can mount a PR-campaign that ties the Republicans to McConnell's and Trump's sabotage, then they will be forced to do something.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
6. Let it ride out.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jan 2019

The other option is capitulate, which I hope is unacceptable to those who get to decide.

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