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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,201 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:26 PM Jan 2019

Trump suggests he'll give 'alternative' State of the Union

Trump said Wednesday he may do an “alternative” State of the Union after Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) blocked him from delivering the address in the House chamber while the government is shut down.

“We’ll do something in the alternative,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

He provided no further details about such an event but said they would be revealed “at a later date.”

Speaking at a meeting with conservative leaders, Trump called Pelosi’s decision a “disgrace,” accused her of not wanting “to hear the truth” and bowing to the “super-left” members of her party.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/426676-trump-suggests-hell-give-alternative-state-of-the-union

Alt facts from a moron living in an alternative reality.

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Trump suggests he'll give 'alternative' State of the Union (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP
Under the Constitution, the SOTU must be given to Congress and not a rally Gothmog Jan 2019 #1
yep, kozar Jan 2019 #4
This makes me wonder Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #6
His cult will eat that shit up. Turbineguy Jan 2019 #8
Come on man, Rump has a history of turning "seemingly cannot be, constitutionally" ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #18
There's Trump's favorite word, "disgrace" coti Jan 2019 #2
truth. donnie. same sentence. bwahaha!!!!! unblock Jan 2019 #3
Sort of like the.... Fake SOTU. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #5
Instead of SOTU he was told to STFU. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #20
Alternative SOTU speech filled with Alternative Facts (R) Achilleaze Jan 2019 #7
Everyone's shit is emotional right now Mr. Quackers Jan 2019 #9
He still must give SOTU to Congress, can be written. SharonAnn Jan 2019 #10
It has to be provided at some point SoCalNative Jan 2019 #14
8,000 lies later and he is going to deliver the truth malaise Jan 2019 #11
Will it involve flannel shirts? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2019 #12
So a campaign rally then EarlG Jan 2019 #13
If he's talking or tweeting he's lying and BSing... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #15
Will it involve t-shirt cannons? Is what I'd like to know. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2019 #16
"Super left." I like it. MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #17
More 'alternative truth'. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #19

Gothmog

(145,563 posts)
1. Under the Constitution, the SOTU must be given to Congress and not a rally
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

The SOTU is a speech to congress and cannot be given at a rally https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-political-rally-second-state-of-the-union

Technically, though, State of the Union speeches are delivered to Congress, not crowds at political rallies.

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution states that the President “shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”

Following the first State of the Union addresses delivered in-person to Congress by George Washington and John Adams, presidents delivered these updates in written form for more than 100 years, until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson revived the practice of delivering them in-person.

But the addresses have never been — and seemingly cannot be, constitutionally — delivered in the form of a political rally.

The media is now not covering trump's rallies and should refuse to cover this stunt

kozar

(2,132 posts)
4. yep,
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jan 2019

so given the total lack of soul of this clown,,,he can give it anywhere, at a rally,KKK meeting, on and on,,,as long as first states that he is talking to Congress, I hate this (&@*%^&*%^&*^&@$%^& ) but he always skirts the edge of law,, I hat eit,,but I am thinking I know now how he works,

just my opinion,,
Koz

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
6. This makes me wonder
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jan 2019

if Speaker Pelosi can give him a deadline for a written report. I don't know if that's a good idea, but I like the idea of messing with him.

Turbineguy

(37,367 posts)
8. His cult will eat that shit up.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jan 2019

The only part of the Constitution they know is half of the 2nd Amendment

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
18. Come on man, Rump has a history of turning "seemingly cannot be, constitutionally"
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:14 PM
Jan 2019

into, "did that with absolutely no consequences". Who's going to stop him?

coti

(4,612 posts)
2. There's Trump's favorite word, "disgrace"
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

The one his demented brain reflexively pulls out every time he doesn't like something.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
7. Alternative SOTU speech filled with Alternative Facts (R)
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jan 2019

We don't need no more stinking lies from the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief and his evil-empire russian bedmates.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
14. It has to be provided at some point
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:01 PM
Jan 2019

but there's nothing in the Constitution that stipulates timelines or even annual requirement:

Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution states that the president “shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
15. If he's talking or tweeting he's lying and BSing...
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jan 2019

The FACTS are... constitutionally there's no reason that he couldn't deliver it in the senate since the senate is a part of "congress" too. Constitutionally he can give it in written form only or both written and in person. Heck, according to the Constitution he can also WAIT for a while since the wording is "from time to time'.

While we tend to think of it as traditional for the president to give his State of The Union report yearly in the spoken form in the House Of Representatives, with a written form given in advance, it's not always been done this way and doesn't have to be.

The fact is that Trump is a narcissist who feeds off of attention and feels everything is supposed to always be about HIM and what HE wants. He craves the spotlight on him like it's a drug so he can say how great he is, spew his lies and bigoted bull and get applause from his TrumpliCon minions and Cult45 followers.

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