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(56,582 posts) Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:05 PM Jan 2019

If you weren't already worried, consider Article II Section 3 of the Constitution

Emphasis mine:

[The President] shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Kind of unnerving how that comes right after the State of the Union part.

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If you weren't already worried, consider Article II Section 3 of the Constitution (Original Post) Recursion Jan 2019 OP

It wouldn't serve any purpose, since Republicans are demanding a wall manor321 Jan 2019 #1

Naw missingthebigdog Jan 2019 #2

You don't think he can get McConnell to pass an adjournment? It's not subject to cloture. (nt) Recursion Jan 2019 #3

How would that help him? missingthebigdog Jan 2019 #4

He may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper Recursion Jan 2019 #5

Doesn't prevent them from reconvening on their own. missingthebigdog Jan 2019 #6

manor321

(3,344 posts)

1. It wouldn't serve any purpose, since Republicans are demanding a wall

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:13 PM

Jan 2019

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)

2. Naw

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:14 PM

Jan 2019

Not so worrisome if you parse it correctly:
he may, on extraordinary Occasions convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper;

That’s pretty narrow. There must be extraordinary circumstances, and his power is limited to convening them. He also has the power to adjourn them, but only if the two bodies disagree as to the time of adjournment.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

3. You don't think he can get McConnell to pass an adjournment? It's not subject to cloture. (nt)

Reply to missingthebigdog (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 07:18 PM

Jan 2019

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)

4. How would that help him?

Reply to Recursion (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 08:30 PM

Jan 2019

If the house and senate are in disagreement about adjournment, he can dictate when they adjourn. He can’t dictate when they reconvene, so what does he gain?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

5. He may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper

Reply to missingthebigdog (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 09:12 PM

Jan 2019

He can dictate when they reconvene: until such time as he thinks proper.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)

6. Doesn't prevent them from reconvening on their own.

Reply to Recursion (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 09:23 PM

Jan 2019

And again, all of the other conditions precedent would have to be met before we even get there:

An extraordinary Occasion;

An Order convening one or both bodies;

Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment.

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