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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFourth time for McConnell! Ya' gotta be kidding me!
He just blocked another attempt to have a vote for the government to reopen! I jus wonder how much money he is getting from Trump and Putin?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)imanamerican63
(13,804 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)The Dem motions are futile and they know it. His rationales are bullshit and he knows it.
This doesn't end until Mitch gets what he wants. He's not revealing his bottom line yet. Breaking the will of the Dem Congress might be the main goal.
One assumes he wants to push this next paycheck to the brink, at a minimum. Don't know if he cares about the SOTU. Probably just as well that no one hears from Red Don.
brush
(53,794 posts)The Speaker is not going to cave.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)This is clearly tactical more than anything else; President Asshole & McConnell engineered this Crisis for the start of this Congress. Maximum Chaos from the start.
However this ends, the Dems will take a hit in the eyes of low-information "Independent" Voters.
brush
(53,794 posts)We aren't trying to cater to them. 7 out of 10 Americans don't want the wall and are against the shutdown.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Misinformed, bigoted Tea-Party Repukes are his base.
brush
(53,794 posts)The blue wave in Nov. shows that sentiments have definitely shifted in the country. Most are fed up with trump/repug crappola.
The Speaker should not and will not cave.
And I think Madame Speaker ALSO agrees.
She's gonna make this one hurt when it finally breaks in her favor.
triron
(22,007 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)How can two men hold the entire nation hostage like this? I can't believe there is nothing that can be legally done about this. It's so incredibly fucked up!
metroins
(2,550 posts)It's the Trump supporters behind them as well.
If there were no supporters, McConnell and Trump wouldn't do this.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That is still a minority. How and why do they have so much control? They are losing support among independents, former-non voters and even their base by the day. How does this translate to power when there are more people who are against them than for them?
tblue37
(65,436 posts)who might not support his wall fear being primaried from the right if they go against him on this (or on anything). Republicans from purple states are terrified that this shutdown will cost them in the general election in 2020, but they still fear a primary from the right that could knock them out before the general election.
If the GOP senators as a group went after Mitch, they could force him to bring it up for a vote, but they won't do that. They all fear the base.
Now, of course they could go Independent and caucus with the Democrats, but they won't, because if they do lose their seat, they need to have a pure RW voting record if they want to get a cushy spot in the RW welfare universe.
metroins
(2,550 posts)They only have control because of the electoral college and gerrymandering.
I suspect you know that.
Elections have consequences and unfortunately 80,000 Americans in 3 states voted more for Trump than Hillary.
I sincerely think they will see the err of their ways in the next general election... As long as we run a good candidate.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Which is why we need to crack down even harder on them in the next election, because they will do it again. I would say a good third of Trump voters voted for him because they wanted "change", not because they are true believers. I know a lot of them and they can't stand him now.
If he barely won then, he isn't going to win 2020 without cheating and we have to make sure that doesn't happen.
metroins
(2,550 posts)I hope we run a good candidate.
I want the next President to be a real President.
triron
(22,007 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,108 posts)and has NOTHING to do with the "BASE". McTurtle OWNS this one all by himself. He is to blame for the government being shut down.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Trump is the leader of the United States and GOP.
McConnell is following after him.
You can use logic, but truth is McConnell has no spine and does whatever Trump tells him. You blame the ring leader, not the foot soldiers.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,108 posts)This is on Mitchpootin.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)he's already wealthy. He wants something else and that is power in a dictatorship. Or it could have something to do with that shipping empire his wife's family owns...
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)No one else gets to have any. He's a good enough Parliamentarian to stop them.
EVERYTHING is going to be pulling teeth. He wants to drag the Dems into the mud and make voters blame them for the dysfunction, too.
It's worked multiple times already, and the GOP has been rewarded for it every time.
bdamomma
(63,893 posts)the protests will get bigger and louder, and people will be questioning McConnell motives. If he thinks he's going to get re-elected forget about it.
He will called an accomplice to the tRump regime.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Who's going to defeat him in KY? Steve Beshear, the former Gov? He's 74 now, 76 on election day in 2020. Maybe his son, Andy Beshear - the AG?
I don't see McConnell as particularly vulnerable - he's been in office since 1984. Do you?
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)He is better off suddenly retiring to China or something to deal with his father in law.
brush
(53,794 posts)You do get that, right?
Money, power, a father-in-law who smuggles drugs using his shipping company...
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)The judges who will face furloughs at the end of this week should be happily signing whatever it gets done to get the government to pay.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)that drugs aren't all they're smuggling. BTW, I wonder what happened to all those immigrant minors.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Do you not remember how he behaved when Obama was POTUS?
rurallib
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erronis
(15,306 posts)Pressure needs to mount on each repuglicon senator. Get rid of the turtle.
Mr.Bill
(24,305 posts)erronis
(15,306 posts)BBG
(2,540 posts)Anyone with R senators needs to be calling them out too. They elected him leader and can replace him too. Where are the wannabe moderate Republican senators getting their ration of populist pressure? Looking at you AK, CO, ME....
NoMoreRepugs
(9,438 posts)that somehow they can hold onto their power forever.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Hassler
(3,380 posts)But Samantha Guthrie will be sure to let us know Moscow Mitch is the victim.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,613 posts)Len Blavatnik donated $3.5 million to Mitch McConnell's PAC from 2015 to 2017.
Ukrainian-born billionaire Len Blavatnik, who holds dual U.S.-U.K. citizenship, used to be a fairly run-of-the-mill campaign contributor, donating relatively modest amounts in a bipartisan fashion and then the 2016 election cycle hit.
Beginning in 2015, Blavatnik lavished contributions on Republicans, with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell alone on the receiving end of $3.5 million between 2015 and 2017.
Also on the list of Russian gifts are Rubio and Graham...........The more the Senator gives gloating statements on Trump, and the more they defend him, the more suspect they are to Russian Money for their campaigns....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142250937
Toorich
(391 posts)... who he causes to be arrested and who then refuse to make bail would be a
good start.
Then they all demand a speedy trial.
Then when the charges get dismissed they all sue McConnell for malicious prosecution,
false arrest, abuse of process, violation of right to petition the government for redress
of grievances and the right to peaceably assemble, and etc.
And that would just be the Thursday group.
How about two thousand on Friday!
And so on and on and on and on and on day after day after day....
kiri
(794 posts)People lacking paychecks and not able to buy food should start getting arrested. In jail, they have to feed you.
1 million arrestees per week would get McConnell's attention when counties have to pay.
FakeNoose
(32,659 posts)"Going nuclear on the Turtle."
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)...He said Thursday...the votes earlier are not Thursday...we will see about tomorrow..
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He doesnt dare go against his masters because they can kill him.