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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,071 posts) Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:33 PM Jan 2019

Can Nancy Pelosi Really Stop Trump From Delivering the State of the Union?

President Trump isn’t ready to let Nancy Pelosi prevent from delivering the State of the Union address at the Capitol next week.

On Wednesday morning, the president sent a letter to the House speaker clarifying his intention to address the nation as planned. “I look forward to seeing you on the evening on January 29th in the Chamber of the House of Representatives,” Trump wrote. “It would be very sad for our Country if the State of the Union were not delivered on time, on schedule and very importantly, on location!”

Link to tweet

The address was called into question last week, when Pelosi uninvited Trump from delivering it in the chamber over which she presides. She cited the government shutdown, now in its fifth week, as her reasoning. “Sadly, given the security concerns and unless the government re-opens this week, I suggest that we work together to determine another suitable date after government has re-opened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union in writing to the Congress on January 29th,” Pelosi wrote.

Trump responded in Trumpian fashion, writing a petty letter informing Pelosi that he was canceling a congressional delegation she had been scheduled to lead through Brussels, Egypt and Afghanistan. “I’m sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate,” the president wrote. “I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown.”

Pelosi’s trip to Afghanistan had previously not been made public, and Trump’s letter forced the State Department to call it off, for fear of endangering the safety of the House speaker and her counterparts. “You never give advance notice of going into a battle area, you just never do it,” Pelosi told reporters. “Perhaps the president’s inexperience didn’t have him understand that protocol. The people around him, though, should have known that, because that’s very dangerous.”

It’s unclear what will happen next Tuesday if Trump shows up at the Capitol. The House and Senate must agree to hold a joint session of Congress for the president to be able to speak, meaning it is very much up to Pelosi whether Trump will deliver the address in the Capitol. Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) told reporters that the House has no plans to allow him to speak.

“It’s absolutely not clear what his present intention is,” Jeffries told reporters on Wednesday. “But I can say that unless the government is reopened, it’s highly unlikely that the State of the Union is going to take place on the floor of the United States House of Representatives.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pelosi-trump-state-of-union-783371/

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Can Nancy Pelosi Really Stop Trump From Delivering the State of the Union? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP

Si, se puede. Yes, she can. tblue37 Jan 2019 #1

McDonald can DO whatever he wants; Pelosi won't stop him gratuitous Jan 2019 #2

She can stop him from doing it from the House chamber. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #3

She can't stop him from delivering it. Empowerer Jan 2019 #4

she never said he couldn't deliver it. ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #5

I read earlier that she has control,of the media BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #6

Yes...yes she can....she OWNS the House, She's 2nd in line for the Presidency a kennedy Jan 2019 #7

The House is not "above the Senate". former9thward Jan 2019 #15

well, the Speaker is ahead of President Pro Tempore of the Senate shanny Jan 2019 #16

No SOTU without a joint resolution of House and Senate Gothmog Jan 2019 #8

He can deliver a written report anytime. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #12

YEP! Kajun Gal Jan 2019 #9

There must be a Joint Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #10

Yes, she can stop a speech in the House. roamer65 Jan 2019 #11

He can give the SOTU in the Oval Office NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #13

If he does, and wherever he holds a speech, he would be so smart to forget ALL the emotional Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #14

tblue37

(65,442 posts)

1. Si, se puede. Yes, she can.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:35 PM

Jan 2019

On edit: The "í" in my sí was omitted from my subject line because the DU program doesn't allow accented letters in the subject line. Unfortunately, without the accent, si means "if," not "yes."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

2. McDonald can DO whatever he wants; Pelosi won't stop him

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:35 PM

Jan 2019

She just isn't going to provide him a venue that she and only she controls.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)

3. She can stop him from doing it from the House chamber.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

Jan 2019

She controls the House, including the door locks and the lights. The SOTU, as a speech, is done by invitation from the House. He can certainly deliver it from somewhere else, or else he can wait until the government is open and get the Really Big Show he wants for himself.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)

4. She can't stop him from delivering it.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:37 PM

Jan 2019

But she can stop him from delivering it on her turf.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)

5. she never said he couldn't deliver it.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:37 PM

Jan 2019

He just can't do it in the House chamber IF the government is still shut down. She invited him to send a letter instead, or use the Oval Office.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)

6. I read earlier that she has control,of the media

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:39 PM

Jan 2019

and what is filmed in Congress. If she will not allow cameras into Congress than it will not be on TV from that building. She doesn't want him to use this as a platform for tRump to attempt to sell his wall BS to the country and make it a political soap box.

a kennedy

(29,680 posts)

7. Yes...yes she can....she OWNS the House, She's 2nd in line for the Presidency

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:39 PM

Jan 2019

and the House is above the Senate. YES SHE CAN TELL THE PRESIDENT TO KISS OFF.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)

15. The House is not "above the Senate".

Reply to a kennedy (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

Jan 2019

What Constitution did you get that from?

shanny

(6,709 posts)

16. well, the Speaker is ahead of President Pro Tempore of the Senate

Reply to former9thward (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:28 AM

Jan 2019

in the line of succession (after the veep, of course)...maybe that's where

Gothmog

(145,374 posts)

8. No SOTU without a joint resolution of House and Senate

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:42 PM

Jan 2019

Pelosi stated that there will be no joint resolution

Link to tweet

Voltaire2

(13,079 posts)

12. He can deliver a written report anytime.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:27 PM

Jan 2019

There is no constitutional requirement for the joint session speech.

Kajun Gal

(1,907 posts)

9. YEP!

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:43 PM

Jan 2019

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

10. There must be a Joint

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 10:44 PM

Jan 2019

Resolution passed by both the House and Senate stating the President is asked to give a State of the Union before a Joint Session of the House and Senate to be held at the House of Representatives and a given time.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

11. Yes, she can stop a speech in the House.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:05 PM

Jan 2019

Period. End of story.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)

13. He can give the SOTU in the Oval Office

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:31 PM

Jan 2019

or at Mar-a-Lago, or at the nearest MacDonald's. He just can't give it on the House floor, which Nancy Pelosi controls.

The president of the United States can't just show up at the House; he must be invited. I'm sure Trump didn't know this, which is why he was absolutely stunned today.

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

14. If he does, and wherever he holds a speech, he would be so smart to forget ALL the emotional

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:40 PM

Jan 2019

bullshit and just appear wherever and literally state the facts. Unemployment is going down...the Trade Deficit is rising, Deficits are rising. I care about that - here is what my economic advisors and I talked about doing as a hedge.

Oops- for a second, thought there was a real president in charge.

And oops, forgot not good to be his advisor.

How fucking stupid is he? If he had only studied and learned and grown with the job.

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