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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:49 AM Jan 2019

My greatest fear is that Trump will make a turn.

He is losing badly to Madam Speaker. He craves the limelight. He has already caved a little by saying that he would give the SOTU after shutdown is over. That could mean anything but I think he really want the Chamber floor. My fear is he could use that forum to suddenly fake some compassion, announce a big deal about DACA, announce again an economic policy to put people back to work, back an $18 minimum wage payback for all those contract employees who lost their pay during the shutdown. He will fake some kind of remorse and talk about how much he as learned and how sorry he is for some of those mistakes. Of course, his base won't hold that against him because they know he will be lying. Some folks this will feel sorry for him, like he is wounded and misunderstood patriot. That's my fear.

My hope is that he will leave office in disgrace and be imprisoned for a minimum of 10 years along with his corrupt children.

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My greatest fear is that Trump will make a turn. (Original Post) allgood33 Jan 2019 OP
Not to worry lunatica Jan 2019 #1
LOL. I think you can safely let your fear go. PSPS Jan 2019 #2
Right? Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #6
He lacks the capacity to even feign compassion or decency. lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #3
Is it not more fearful if he doesn't make that turn? greyl Jan 2019 #4
That would surely be a unique event. If that's ever happened in Trumpy's life before, Eyeball_Kid Jan 2019 #5
It will be interesting to see if your theory holds out TlalocW Jan 2019 #14
My hope is that all the gas that is in his system will finally explode causing a major smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #7
You should worry about something more realistic and possible, like a meteor hitting you in TeamPooka Jan 2019 #8
It is possible because GOP is cancelling the primary AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #9
GOPee can't cancel the primaries, shanny Jan 2019 #15
He's never said he's sorry for anything, and always blames everyone else Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #10
Yeah, the words "I'm sorry" have never come out of his pie hole Rorey Jan 2019 #26
Probably forever. 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #28
I don't like to harbor negative feelings, so.... Rorey Jan 2019 #29
Amnesia would be great. 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #30
Forgiveness requires contrition in my book Rorey Jan 2019 #31
no matter which way he turns dweller Jan 2019 #11
he makes the turn and his base gets pissed rufus dog Jan 2019 #12
No way in hell he could choke out the words sorry and mistakes. Grammy23 Jan 2019 #13
Isn't that exactly what we would want him to do? oberliner Jan 2019 #16
It is. He does those and his base abandons him. bearsfootball516 Jan 2019 #18
Yes, it seems to me that would be a good thing... nt Raine Jan 2019 #19
Yes, oberliner. We all want a fraud in the White House. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2019 #22
I meant a deal on DACA, a higher minimum wage, and people going back to work oberliner Jan 2019 #24
He can't do ANY of those things leftynyc Jan 2019 #17
If he does that Nancy will be presenting bills to Mitch to get passed and signed. Vinca Jan 2019 #20
Many thought this would happen when he won the nomination. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2019 #21
He couldn't even get as far as "The Fonze" towards saying "I was wr, wro, wruru..." LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #23
On the worry scale of 1 to 10, this would be negative 2 gratuitous Jan 2019 #25
Seems like a silly thing to have fear about for a couple reasons. Sapient Donkey Jan 2019 #27
No one is going to feel sorry for this asshole peggysue2 Jan 2019 #32
My greatest fear is that a hellmouth opens under the oval office and swallows him up. harumph Jan 2019 #33

greyl

(22,990 posts)
4. Is it not more fearful if he doesn't make that turn?
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:55 AM
Jan 2019

If donald mostly cared about ratings, building suspense a la reality TV marketing, stagecraft loosely, he'd end the shutdown in time to give the SOTU on January 29 as originally scheduled.

If he does not take that opportunity, I'll have next to zero doubt left that the #TrumpShutdown is only coin for Putin, and the wall demand is simply pretext.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
5. That would surely be a unique event. If that's ever happened in Trumpy's life before,
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 02:56 AM
Jan 2019

it would be news to all of us, his biographers included. Trumpy is way too rigid for the kind of change of which you write. It's just not in his experience, nor in his knowledge base. He'll resign. He'll resign because he now knows that nearly all avenues for success are now blocked by the House. He also knows that the House will relentlessly take the framing away from Trumpy as they issue subpeonaes, grill witnesses, issue statements and reports... Trumpy's time in control of the national narrative is fast coming to a close.

TlalocW

(15,386 posts)
14. It will be interesting to see if your theory holds out
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:16 AM
Jan 2019

In the past he has essentially run away from projects when they stopped going his way. With Pelosi in charge, that's going to happen an awful lot now, but those projects were more or less not that newsworthy before he became president. So while yes, he did run his various businesses into the ground, and even though America probably wouldn't have cared, he always had something else waiting in the wings so he could announce it and satiate his ego. He doesn't have that option now. If he quits, it's big news, and he is the ultimate loser in one of the biggest games with the highest stakes. There's nothing he can roll out after that that takes that away. I wonder if his ego will allow him to quit.

TlalocW

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. My hope is that all the gas that is in his system will finally explode causing a major
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:04 AM
Jan 2019

disaster in the Oval Office. Heh, heh. Just kidding. Not really.

TeamPooka

(24,232 posts)
8. You should worry about something more realistic and possible, like a meteor hitting you in
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:04 AM
Jan 2019

the face on the way to work each day.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
9. It is possible because GOP is cancelling the primary
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:06 AM
Jan 2019

so he is only focusing on general election. That is the change that was made today I beleive. But him changing course is the least of my worries. And no way gop senate will approve min wage increase - they depend on corporate donors.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
10. He's never said he's sorry for anything, and always blames everyone else
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:08 AM
Jan 2019

for the messes he creates. No need for you to worry about this at least. Ain't gonna happen.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
26. Yeah, the words "I'm sorry" have never come out of his pie hole
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jan 2019

"That I can tell you."

I wonder how long after he's gone I'll still despise him.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
31. Forgiveness requires contrition in my book
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jan 2019

So, nope, it won't be happening for me either. Actually, even if he was contrite, it's just too much to ask.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
13. No way in hell he could choke out the words sorry and mistakes.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 04:07 AM
Jan 2019


He’d sooner give up Mara-Lago than utter those words. He’d probably gag if he even tried to say such a thing. His tangerine face would likely swell up like a baboon’s butt.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,185 posts)
22. Yes, oberliner. We all want a fraud in the White House.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:23 AM
Jan 2019

Sheesh.

Luckily if there’s one thing Trump is bad at, it’s faking compassion.

We would see right through him if he ever tried this.

For the record I doubt he’ll even bother such a scheme. He’s not that capable.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. He can't do ANY of those things
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jan 2019

due to his morbid fear of his putrid base. He knows if he loses them, it's over.

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
20. If he does that Nancy will be presenting bills to Mitch to get passed and signed.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jan 2019

Proof is in the signature and BS gets called out.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,185 posts)
21. Many thought this would happen when he won the nomination.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:19 AM
Jan 2019

When that didn’t happen they said it would happen if he won the election.

When that didn’t happen, they said it would happen after he was inaugurated.

When that didn’t happen, they said it would happen after Steve Bannon left the White House.

When that didn’t happen, they said it would happen after John Kelly got control of things as Chief of Staff.

My take it to the bank prediction:

It’s not going to happen.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
23. He couldn't even get as far as "The Fonze" towards saying "I was wr, wro, wruru..."
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jan 2019

Sorry is not in his limited vocabulary. I would not be surprised to hear that he has been chewing the woodwork in the Oval Office due to being outgunned by Speaker Pelosi. He doesn't do remorse, only revenge.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. On the worry scale of 1 to 10, this would be negative 2
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jan 2019

Any promises Trump makes should be disregarded until a deal is actually concluded. Any promises about DACA or a hike in the minimum wage, or anything else aren't worth the breath Trump uses to mouth them. As soon as any of his offers is accepted, his default, go-to move is to pull the offer back and offer less. In his dichotomous winner/loser mind, any offer that's accepted is automatically not the best deal he could get. When all is said and done, he has to deliver less than he first offered so that he wins.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
27. Seems like a silly thing to have fear about for a couple reasons.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 05:37 PM
Jan 2019

The first being that he would never do that. The second being, even if he did all that, his base would abandon him and there would be no way he'd get reelected. So if he did that, then it would be a win all around in the end.

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
32. No one is going to feel sorry for this asshole
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jan 2019

No one will be able to turn him into a martyr, not even Fox News and the usual suspects. The man has no empathy and he's not a good enough actor to pretend he's suddenly developed compassion. He's hurt millions of Americans with this nonsense and has put us all at risk.

No tears for the Trumpster because traitors and rotten human beings don't deserve sympathy, only scorn.

Never forget, never forgive.

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