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The news media hasn't been too clear on this. One thing I hate about our media is not that they're liberal or conservative but that too many articles are dumbed down to the point of lacking substance.
Not a fan of Maduro but it often seems that we just trade one dictator for another.
msongs
(67,421 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Externally, he's got support on the left and center in several Latin American countries, and seems at least tolerable to the right (for now; his party is still a member of the Socialist International so I'd imagine there are plans afoot to shunt him aside for somebody else soon)
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)2. A whole lot of world leaders are throwing their weight behind him
3. Everyone has a vested interest in seeing Maduro kicked out, especially if Guaido keeps his promise to restore the rule of law, bring back fair, legit elections and un-fuck the economy which is beset by the unholy trinity of high unemployment, hyperinflation and massive shortages of basic everyday necessities (and there are no real shortages FWIW, the stuff just gets stolen, stockpiled and resold on the black market at heavy markup).
4. And yes, there *IS* a mutually beneficial economic/corporate angle here, which is probably the only thing Donnie even halfway understands.
5. Aside from a lot of angry words, Moscow is most likely to stay out of this even though Maduro is their boy. Yeah, they might have propped up Assad in Syria, but they aren't bringing any significant military power halfway around the globe to protect some expendable piece of shit....
6. Still, Guaido is missing one final piece: The blessing of the military, who are the real power brokers in the country and still firmly in Maduro's camp
10 Dec 2018
Venezuela welcomes Russian bombers in show of support for Maduro
Putin may have grown uncomfortable with increasingly aggresive U.S. behavior toward Venezuela.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)If the Russians were transferring over whole wings of Su-24/Su-25/Su-34 jets, then that would be a cause for worry
moondust
(19,993 posts)http://www.reuters.com/article/media-russia-eyes-venezuela-base-for-air/media-russia-eyes-venezuela-base-for-aircraft-nezavisimaya-gazeta-idUSL8N1YH1KC
Atticus
(15,124 posts)does not recognize Maduro as the "legitimate" president (Is that gag-worthy or what?); 2.) therefore, the order for the US ambassador and his personnel leave the country within 72 hours is not valid; 3.) If/when "strongman" Maduro send his stormtroopers to "evict the gringos", maybe there is violence and maybe some of our folks are hurt or maybe, on orders from Washington, they barricade themselves in and resist; 4.) Trump sends troops to "rescue" our people, the troops are fired upon as "Yanqui invaders" and PRESTO!--- we have a shooting war and are called upon to rally around the flag and forget about "petty distractions" like the "Mueller witch hunt".
Pure speculation? Absolutely.
Possible with the Trump regime? Yup.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)And the Venezuelan military would fold faster then the Panamanians did in 1989.
I have Venezuelan friends on FB who post memes begging for a intervention.....I guess they don't like starving.
Not saying we should but it would be welcomed by a majority.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Anyone notice that the Guyana government next door has almost collapsed as Exxon takes over. Even American Airlines is in Guyana these days along with PriceMart . The Brits suddenly want back their military base in Guyana. The imperialists are back in full swing.
If I don't laugh I'd cry.