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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 04:48 PM Jan 2019

We talk about 800,000 federal government employees

I'll skip the numbers for the contractors.

But let's remember, that's 800,000 employees. How many of these employees are married? How many have children? How many are caring for elderly parents? How many of those spouses and children and family members require special, aka expensive, care?

How many businesses nationwide depend on the purchasing power of those 800,000 employees? How many of those businesses will fail because of a month's severe reduction in revenues.

How many social services directed to those chronically in need were further burdened by caring for federal employees not receiving paychecks?

Flights delayed, business funding delayed, business services not available, imports/exports delayed.

We've all seen the stories of individual people, and these are troublesome and touching. As always seems to be the case, Americans on the local level rose the the challenge.

I'll be interested to see the economists try to quantify the economic impact. And the social scientists try to quantify the impact created by so much stress-inducing uncertainty.

It will be interesting to see how many federal employees will retire or seek other employment as a result, further eroding government services.

Contrary to 40+ year of the Reagan "government is the problem" philosophy, we have seen that, well, the government really does perform valuable services at so many different levels. Sadly, that 34% "base" will never acknowledge this, even as they receive their Medicare or Medicaid or farm support or whatever. These people don't care about the shutdown of a New York airport. They don't care about some federal employee on the gravy train having to ration the money he has to pay for food, mortgage, or medical care. Because I would further bet that these people are not and will never be among those Americans who rise to the challenge.

There are so many opportunities for new messaging. I hope the Dems can stay focused and do what is needed.

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We talk about 800,000 federal government employees (Original Post) matt819 Jan 2019 OP
This occurred this morning benld74 Jan 2019 #1
I saw that matt819 Jan 2019 #2

benld74

(9,911 posts)
1. This occurred this morning
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jan 2019

01/25/19
UPDATE: The FAA has halted all incoming flights to Newark International Airport due to ATC shortages.

Newark and LaGuardia operations are indefinitely suspended.

The FAA is evaluating JFK at this time.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. I saw that
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jan 2019

And it would have only gotten worse, of course.

I'm going to pick a number out of thin air for the monetary cost of the shutdown, though I have no idea how to even begin calculating it.

Here's my number: $75 billion
Lost revenues to businesses, public transportation, canceled travel, less discretionary income available, and more
Delayed flights
Additional interest and other charges for late payments
Medical costs associated with the shutdown
Additional expenses to clean up the mess - figuratively and literally (e.g., national parks)
Scientific work that needs to be scrapped or redone - NASA, NIH
Hiring new employees for those who choose to retire or resign as a result of the shutdown
Just read about the impact on the Super Bowl - more costs
Additional costs to states and businesses for stepping up to cover benefits to furloughed workers

The House should form a committee to hold hearings on just this issue, as the basis for legislation to stop this from ever happening again.


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