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struggle4progress

(118,294 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:37 PM Jan 2019

How Nancy broke Donald

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 9:03 PM ET, Fri January 25, 2019

... The answer is remarkably simple: She said "no." And stuck to it.

Pelosi, from the start, insisted that neither she nor any Democrats would cooperate with any negotiation that sought to leverage a government shutdown for Trump to try to secure the $5.7 billion he wanted for a border wall.

The key to saying something so definitive is a) sticking to it and b) enforcing it. There was never a peep from any House Democrat that they should make concessions on the wall to Trump. Not any meaningful dissent. For 35 days of a shutdown.

In the midst of that, Pelosi out-Trumped Trump on his State of the Union speech, too. She said postpone it. He said "no" and dared her to deny him the chance. She did just that ...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-end-of-government-shutdown-week-in-review/index.html

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How Nancy broke Donald (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2019 OP
Excellent points. I like the closing paragraph: yardwork Jan 2019 #1
You had me at NO underpants Jan 2019 #2
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2019 #3
The only language a bully understands is power. dalton99a Jan 2019 #4
Remember Pantagruel Jan 2019 #5
It wasn't air travel. Blue_true Jan 2019 #6

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
1. Excellent points. I like the closing paragraph:
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jan 2019

The Point: What Pelosi seems to understand better than past Trump political opponents is that giving ANY ground is a mistake. You have to not only stand firm, but be willing to go beyond all political norms -- like canceling the SOTU -- to win. Which is what Pelosi did this week. Twice.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
4. The only language a bully understands is power.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jan 2019

Pelosi is not afraid to wield it. It is her right and duty to wield it.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
5. Remember
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:00 PM
Jan 2019

Trump caved when it became clear air travel was breaking down.
Airports and the internet, the two weak links to attack if you want to get their attention. They care nothing for human suffering but will lay down to protect engines of commerce.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. It wasn't air travel.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:16 PM
Jan 2019

Some keep insisting that a very small percentage of Americans and freight is important, in the larger scope of things, it isn't. What happened was that IRS employees that were called back to work without pay called in sick in large numbers, so much that tax return checks were seriously at risk. In addition, food stamps expired net week if the shutdown continued through that date, the expiration would have hurt a large segment of Trump's base. Trump folded because he saw damage that would happen to his standing if he allowed the shutdown to continue longer. One thing that democratic leaders should have maybe insisted on is that food stamps expire on the very day Trump shutdown the government if he tries that shit again.

In three week, if there is no agreement, my guess is Trump tried his national emergency ruse. But democrats can counter in court over him redefining appropriations from Congress, and with the logic that if there was in fact an emergency, why hasn't Trump called it long ago.

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