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Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:28 AM Jan 2019

How Mueller could have gotten Roger Stone's WhatsApp messages

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Part of the evidence Mueller used to build his case came from Stone’s own WhatsApp messages, according an indictment (pdf) unsealed on Friday. The 24-page document details Stone’s communications about an entity referred to as “Organization 1,” which the court filing makes clear is WikiLeaks, during the 2016 presidential campaign. According to the indictment, Stone communicated regularly with “senior Trump Campaign officials,” to whom he delivered stolen emails that were surfaced by WikiLeaks, and that he promised would be damaging to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

In one exchange, Stone suggests to a contact that they switch their text conversation to a safer channel. “Want to talk on a secure line—got Whatsapp?” he texted.

The indictment goes on to describe messages between Stone and the other party about material that would hurt the Clinton campaign, suggesting investigators working for the special counsel were able to access the WhatsApp exchange.

The messaging service, which is owned by Facebook, is known for its highly secure end-to-end encryption, meaning everything is encrypted before it leaves the user’s phone and decrypted only after it reaches the recipient’s device. Only the sender and receiver, not even WhatsApp itself, can read encrypted messages.

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https://qz.com/1534250/how-mueller-could-have-gotten-roger-stones-whatsapp-messages/

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How Mueller could have gotten Roger Stone's WhatsApp messages (Original Post) Cirque du So-What Jan 2019 OP
Facebook uses it...that's enough of a reason for me to never trust it. eom. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #1
The article asserts that this is not a WhatsApp weakness teach1st Jan 2019 #4
Hmm. I use nothing related to the whole fb craze. Encryption is not a panacea. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #5
Yup. Every backup. C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #2
"Only the sender and receiver, not even WhatsApp itself, can read encrypted messages." Botany Jan 2019 #3
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #6

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
4. The article asserts that this is not a WhatsApp weakness
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jan 2019
“It’s beyond the scope of the capabilities of WhatsApp, it has to do with how the users at the endpoints are handling their information.”


And

“How secure is WhatsApp, really? Very secure,” EFF researcher Gennie Gebhart says. “The key is to ensure that you and anyone you’re chatting with is not backing up to Apple (for iPhone users) or Google (for Android users) servers. And, of course, ensure that you trust that people you are chatting with.”


Most likely, one of the participants in the messaging in question was careless about storing the data.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. Hmm. I use nothing related to the whole fb craze. Encryption is not a panacea.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:42 AM
Jan 2019

Encryption can be UNENCRYPTED by the NSA...if they can do it...so can the corporate guys who get paid for fb. Back doors come to mind.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
2. Yup. Every backup.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jan 2019

And every backup of a backup. Even the deleted files might live on in a cache. Every time, these Republican crooks get brought down by their own arrogance and stupidity.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
3. "Only the sender and receiver, not even WhatsApp itself, can read encrypted messages."
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jan 2019

I bet ya that the FBI or the NSA or the CIA can read the messages.


“senior Trump Campaign officials,” Now who could these be?

D.T., D.T.Jr, J.K., I.T., P.M., Eric Prince, Devin Nunes, Jeff Sessions, and ?

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