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highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:28 PM Jan 2019

'Prisoner of his own impulse': Inside Trump's reversal to end shutdown without wall (WaPo)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/prisoner-of-his-own-impulse-inside-trumps-cave-to-end-shutdown-without-wall/2019/01/25/e4a4789a-20d5-11e9-8b59-0a28f2191131_story.html



“He was the prisoner of his own impulse and it turned into a catastrophe for him,” said David Axelrod, who was a White House adviser to President Barack Obama. “The House of Representatives has power and authority — and now a speaker who knows how to use it — so that has to become part of his calculation or he’ll get embarrassed again.”

-snip-

This account of Trump’s stymied pursuit of border wall funding is based on interviews with more than a dozen senior administration officials, Trump confidants and others briefed on internal discussions, many of whom requested anonymity to speak candidly.

For weeks, Trump has sought an exit ramp from the shutdown that would still secure wall funding, and for weeks his advisers failed to identify a viable one.

Trump repeatedly predicted to advisers that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would cave and surmised that she had a problem with the more liberal members of her caucus. But she held firm, and her members stayed united.

“Why are they always so loyal?” Trump asked in one staff meeting, complaining that Democrats so often stick together while Republicans sometimes break apart, according to attendees.

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Trump and his advisers misunderstood the will of Democrats to oppose wall funding. Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, emerged as the most powerful White House adviser during the shutdown and told colleagues that Trump’s plan for $5.7 billion in wall funding would get Democratic votes in the Senate on Thursday, astonishing Capitol Hill leaders and other White House aides.

Kushner, who Trump jokingly says is to the “left,” pitched a broader immigration deal and had faith that he could negotiate a grand bargain in the coming weeks, according to people familiar with his discussions. He pitched a big deal to Latino groups this week and also with members of the Koch network, the people said.

Trump, who fretted about the shutdown’s impact on the economy and his personal popularity, cast about for blame and pointed fingers at his staff — including Kushner — for failing to resolve the impasse, according to aides.

At a meeting Wednesday with conservative groups, the president accused former House speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) of having “screwed him” by not securing border wall money when Republicans had the majority, according to one attendee, Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. He said Ryan should have gotten him money before he left but he had no juice and had “gone fishing,” according to two attendees.

Ryan had warned the president against a shutdown and told him it would be politically disastrous, according to a person familiar with their conversations.

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McConnell called Trump on Thursday to say that the shutdown could not hold because some of his members were in revolt. The president did not commit to ending it in that call, but he phoned McConnell back that evening to say he had concluded the shutdown had to end, according to a person with knowledge of the conversations.

Under attack from some Republican colleagues, McConnell told senators on Friday that Trump had come up with the idea for a three-week deal — and that the president would be announcing it.

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Ultimately, aides said, Trump was willing to table debate over wall funding because he is convinced he can win support from some Democratic lawmakers over the next three weeks.

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A senior White House official said the administration’s negotiating team has received “dozens of signals from Democrats that they are willing to give the president wall money,” but declined to name any such lawmakers.

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Delusional, incompetent, and whiny.

Not just Trump, but his entire pathetic crew...
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'Prisoner of his own impulse': Inside Trump's reversal to end shutdown without wall (WaPo) (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2019 OP
Totally delusional wryter2000 Jan 2019 #1
Not sure what Trump will do then, but if anyone can handle him, Pelosi can. highplainsdem Jan 2019 #2
Jared is doing a sterling job! Scurrilous Jan 2019 #3
I'm still waiting for DFT's plan for ISIS - remember that BS? RainCaster Jan 2019 #5
What 45 does next will depend on what RW media says about him in the coming days Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #4
Trump's always followed his impulses gratuitous Jan 2019 #6
He needs 6 Dems tocave, he got 1. lark Jan 2019 #7
Even if he got the Senate wryter2000 Jan 2019 #10
He's a delusional idiot. Goodheart Jan 2019 #8
He wants loyalty. murielm99 Jan 2019 #9
Bungling, blundering bevy of buffoons. Solly Mack Jan 2019 #11
Democratic Unity GopherGal Jan 2019 #12
kick highplainsdem Jan 2019 #13

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
4. What 45 does next will depend on what RW media says about him in the coming days
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jan 2019

If they defend him and try to spin it that he is taking the high road by protecting fed workers he will come out fighting for wall money again.

If they criticize him, I think he will quietly sign a CR extension...maybe into late 2020 and then he will go into a rampage about how the current/past repugs have screwed him. It's the only thing he can do to keep his base.

And what he'll really be doing is daring them to convict him in the Senate after the House impeaches, which they will eventually do.

I think things are about to get even stranger.

At this point it is a race to 2020 to save his presidency. This term of his presidency. He doesn't want to be the only president removed from office. And he doesn't want to resign.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Trump's always followed his impulses
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jan 2019

It's just that someone - not the so-called grown ups in the White House, not Republicans in Congress, and for goddam sure not the media - finally held him to account.

lark

(23,105 posts)
7. He needs 6 Dems tocave, he got 1.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jan 2019

He will never get the other 5 but after reading this, does he know that or is his delusion too large to let him recognize this truth. Unless he has major dirt on 5 moderate Dem Senators (he doesn't) he will never win. I know he doesn't have this dirt or he'd already have used it, the way he has on Graham.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
9. He wants loyalty.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

He values it above many other things. But his idea of loyalty is like that given to Kim Jong Un.

Democrats are not always loyal. The whole party is like herding cats. Nancy keeps them together because she is a true leader.

His ideas about loyalty are scary. I hope we never have that kind of loyalty.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
12. Democratic Unity
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jan 2019
Trump repeatedly predicted to advisers that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would cave and surmised that she had a problem with the more liberal members of her caucus. But she held firm, and her members stayed united.


Seems like wishful thinking to the point of self-delusion. Even supposing she did have problems with the left of her party, why in the world would that work to his advantage in the matter of a border wall? Or am I missing some great clamoring on the left for a border wall?
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