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Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:16 PM Jan 2019

The Democratic New Deal, what do you want in it?

I firmly believe that the Democratic Candidate needs to run under a New Deal banner in 2020. It needs to be focused on working families and helping to make their lives better.

What 4 or 5 key points would this New Deal need to contain for you?

For me:
1. Living Wage guarantee
2. Universal healthcare
3. Debt Free college
4. Expansion of Social Security
5. Fair Tax structure

These need to be kept simple so they can make good sound bytes. A truly populist message will sweep the 2020 election. Dems will have the anti Trump, Anti Racist, anti Homophobia vote, get the workers back and we storm into power and rebuild this country.

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The Democratic New Deal, what do you want in it? (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 OP
Some sunonmars Jan 2019 #1
#3, tax breaks in deprived areas, Trump loves this JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #6
Question Karadeniz Jan 2019 #2
Lock box Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 #4
Yes, to be "livable" in most places, you have to defer Social Security until you're 70 years old. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #9
Remove the cap on income that pays into Social Security Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 #11
That's a really good one Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #17
No military engagement longer than 10 days Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #3
I like this Takket Jan 2019 #16
Make it illegal to shut down the government. Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #5
That. sunonmars Jan 2019 #7
Make it easier to form a union. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #8
Repeal Taft-Hartley. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #34
Mandatory paper ballots in all states pecosbob Jan 2019 #10
I agree Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 #12
I would hope that someone more versed in marketing could make a bumper-sticker version pecosbob Jan 2019 #15
"Voter-verified Paper Ballots" n/t TygrBright Jan 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author pecosbob Jan 2019 #13
Automatic voter registration would be nice krispos42 Jan 2019 #14
Yes! Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 #27
Move it to the last Saturday in April krispos42 Jan 2019 #35
How does this align with the Dem Party platform? Hekate Jan 2019 #18
1. Get rid of "dark money" for campaigns (Citizens United); Nevermypresident Jan 2019 #19
I'd add reproductive rights. If I can't control my own body lilactime Jan 2019 #20
this Freddie Jan 2019 #36
GREEN New Deal shanny Jan 2019 #21
Government run utilities. Government provided daycare. Greybnk48 Jan 2019 #22
Fight Climate Change walkingman Jan 2019 #23
The Fairness Doctrine. Liberal Veteran Jan 2019 #24
Universal basic income, universal single-payer healthcare, tax the rich, debt-free post secondary WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #25
I like this list Johnny2X2X Jan 2019 #26
Sounds like you feel the bern. Joe941 Jan 2019 #28
No. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #32
A vast infrastructure building/employment program focused on... TygrBright Jan 2019 #29
Nationwide standards for all federal elections with procon Jan 2019 #31
A 5% tax break JustAnotherGen Jan 2019 #33

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
1. Some
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jan 2019

1 : Open discussion on full electoral reform
2 : End the uncertainty and ridiculousness of Govt shutdowns.
3 : Full support and tax breaks and backing to small businesses in deprived areas
4 : Make online retailers accountable for proper taxation and plough the money back into community businesses
5 : Remove the Trump tax breaks to his cronies and give it to the workers.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
6. #3, tax breaks in deprived areas, Trump loves this
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jan 2019

All he has to do is define an "Opportunity Zone" somewhere that Uday or Qusay want to build, and the Trumps profit.

He can designate the Hamptons as depressed, and rake in development tax breaks.

Karadeniz

(22,528 posts)
2. Question
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jan 2019

Right now, aren't social security funds kept in a general fund and used for other things? If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to protect them and make the government budget its expenses without that? Also, can we undo what was done to the post office to try to drive it into insolvency (pension fund).

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. Lock box
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

Yes. They aren't in the general fund, but Congress borrows from Social Security. Stop that and remove the cap on FICA and Medicaid tax.

People deserve to retire with dignity. Social Security as it is doesn't allow a dignified existence for too many who collect it.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
9. Yes, to be "livable" in most places, you have to defer Social Security until you're 70 years old.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jan 2019

Then, in most places, you might be able to live.

San Francisco, Manhattan, etc, forget it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. Remove the cap on income that pays into Social Security
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:11 PM
Jan 2019

Right now no Social Security tax is paid on income over $115K or so. Remove that cap and Social Security has way more coming in.

In fact, I want to see the age to collect Social Security lowered. As it is now, too many are basically working until you're ready to drop dead.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
17. That's a really good one
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jan 2019

That would be all we would need to stabilize social security long as we keep them from using it for other things

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
3. No military engagement longer than 10 days
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

Unless there is ratification by 2/3 of the house and senate.

That is how we will afford to pay for the other things

Takket

(21,575 posts)
16. I like this
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jan 2019

Gives the president power to respond to a global emergency but not wage war alone. War authorization should be returned to Congress where the Constitution says it belongs.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
5. Make it illegal to shut down the government.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jan 2019

In cases of disagreement over funding of the budget, the current budget continues until a new one as ratified

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
15. I would hope that someone more versed in marketing could make a bumper-sticker version
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

but it seems to me that overall voter disenfranchisement is a major issue for younger voters and their votes are crucial. One person, one vote kind of emcompasses paper ballots and dark money in campaigns.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
14. Automatic voter registration would be nice
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

I have some pie in the sky stuff to fix our federal election system, but that's an excellent start.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
35. Move it to the last Saturday in April
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jan 2019

Kids are still in school, but the snow should be done for nearly everybody and the blazing hot weather is still in the future. No holidays around there, so it won't be lost to people trying to sneak in a 3-day weekend.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
18. How does this align with the Dem Party platform?
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jan 2019

If not, how are you working to get your points on the next one?

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
19. 1. Get rid of "dark money" for campaigns (Citizens United);
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

2. # of Senators per state based on population or another equitable calculation;
3. ? years of Tax returns provided by every candidate for President, Congress and Supreme Court;
4. Infrastructure;
5. Term Limits for Supreme Court Justices

These are in addition to most points covered in OP and responses.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
36. this
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:07 PM
Jan 2019

Also pass the ERA. WAAAAY overdue. I want the R’s to tell women why we shouldn’t have equal rights guaranteed by the Constitution, I’m all ears.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
21. GREEN New Deal
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:12 PM
Jan 2019

All of the above while focusing on Green Jobs, Green Industry, a remade economy. A call to action, a moonshot if you will. We have to change everything about how we live. End subsidies for extractive industries, finally do infrastructure and build in new capabilities (like solar roads for example); promote mass transit, put everyone to work building a better future. And soak the rich to pay for it (we can raid the defense budget too...so that it is used to defend us from actual dangers instead of creating them).

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,356 posts)
25. Universal basic income, universal single-payer healthcare, tax the rich, debt-free post secondary
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

education and childcare.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
29. A vast infrastructure building/employment program focused on...
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:57 PM
Jan 2019

...building sustainable power and communications grids, cleaning up the water supply, and replacing the toxic, crumbling, outdated transportation and waste management systems.

And building schools. Lots and lots and lots of SMALL schools. LOTS of them.

wistfully,
Bright

procon

(15,805 posts)
31. Nationwide standards for all federal elections with
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

stiff mandatory sentencing for voter suppression, ballot tampering, etc., and make voting easier, and have a paper trail.

And-- nationwide standards for all candidates for any federal office that would begin with a public funding, a shorter campaign season, same day primaries in every state, eliminate party caucuses. Demand truth and ethics from candidates and their PACs, eliminate anonymous political ads. Primary funding sources must be prominently displayed.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
33. A 5% tax break
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:10 PM
Jan 2019

If you, your parent, or grandparent was "Negro" on the 1940, 50, or 60 census for 36 years.

The Reparation for Jim Crow, Red Lining, being shut out of the original New Deal Tax Break.

It has an automatic sunset built in. Example - my dad was born in 41 and died in 2011.

I was born in 1973 and don't have a child. Sunsets at death - as I have A.S. So won't live that long.

This limits the Irish slave and Italian nonsense - in 1950 they benefited from Jim Crow.

Limits the "well how do we know who was slave?" nonsense.

If you are the child of Haitian immigrants in the 1980's - blocked. Came here from Africa in 1998 - blocked out.

There's a pretty good chance that if you fall in those strict Census qualifications - you are eligible.

It's simple - the Census was used as tool of sick oppression against my grandparents (born at the turn of the last century), they paid all of these taxes and got not a Fucking thing out of it, and even had a son home on leave in Talladega Alabama in 1964 with a purple heart and Captain's bars and it was too dangerous for him to vote.

So - it's our turn.

1932-1968 - When the New Deal was a raw deal for black Americans.

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