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cally

(21,593 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:47 PM Jan 2019

Unbelievable. Kamala Harris

I tried to go to Oakland rally but the line is at least 12 blocks long. Completely unexpected. I saw police calling for more as crowd is so large !!! Of course, the folks look like the USA. A broad cross section of folks wanting change


I don’t think I will get in so I’m heading home to watch it on tv

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Unbelievable. Kamala Harris (Original Post) cally Jan 2019 OP
It's great to see California with a Presidential candidate in the running! lunatica Jan 2019 #1
Iowa & New Hampshire have outsized influence NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #58
Whichever states go first will have an outsized influence. I just wish the first 2 were states... Garrett78 Jan 2019 #70
On the other hand, there's that Nixon and Reagan thing. n/t NNadir Jan 2019 #59
Don't forget the Governator Shwartzenegger! lunatica Jan 2019 #61
When I lived in California, we had Pete Wilson, Senator Hayakawa and a whole host of... NNadir Jan 2019 #63
Yeah, I was there then too lunatica Jan 2019 #64
Yeah. So was I. Very pleasing to see Pete Wilson blow it for GOPers calimary Jan 2019 #86
I am super happy about it too...Love Kamala! yuiyoshida Jan 2019 #69
Hmm baby! roscoeroscoe Jan 2019 #73
hummm baby! yuiyoshida Jan 2019 #80
Sorry you don't think you'll get in but ... Greywing Jan 2019 #2
+1! musette_sf Jan 2019 #3
Ok, I'll say it. I think she's got the "Obama factor" going for her NightWatcher Jan 2019 #4
yup. If nominated I think she will drive turnout larger than 2008. TeamPooka Jan 2019 #11
This made my day! Glimmer of Hope Jan 2019 #5
Her crowd is way bigger than Dirty Donny*s KGOP inauguration Achilleaze Jan 2019 #6
Go Kamala Go! WA-03 Democrat Jan 2019 #7
This is a good point. I'm a Warren fan for her policy proposals on wealth inequal. EndGOPPropaganda Jan 2019 #15
Ooh, I like that ticket very much stopwastingmymoney Jan 2019 #53
Me too! Elect a female team in 2020 on the 100-year anniversary of womens suffrage. OMGWTF Jan 2019 #55
She should have booked the Oakland Coliseum Starry Messenger Jan 2019 #8
ah...yeah. It appears to me she's going to be the major frontrunner in this race, JCanete Jan 2019 #9
She is clearly one of the frontrunners already karynnj Jan 2019 #24
She's not taking corporate PAC money, so I don't see the issue with her donors. ehrnst Jan 2019 #83
Fantastic! honest.abe Jan 2019 #10
Excellent! She's the only one of the candidates I've actually met and I think she's great! SunSeeker Jan 2019 #12
It's waaaaay early sellitman Jan 2019 #13
I tried watching on YouTube. The side comments are just too nasty. These RW-Nazi-lovers stink! allgood33 Jan 2019 #14
CNN will broadcast it when she takes the podium. I would imagine MSNBC too. ! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #16
I know. I just don't bother to read them Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #18
I saw my first smear on her today in the Daily Mail kimbutgar Jan 2019 #17
Agreed, it's not much of a story.... hopefully she addresses it early so it will go away groundloop Jan 2019 #44
Is this about the guy shanti Jan 2019 #50
My brother is at the rally..nt helpisontheway Jan 2019 #19
Sorry, cally.. but great for Kamala! Cha Jan 2019 #20
BTW, California's primary is now in March ... Auggie Jan 2019 #21
Watching her speak right now - magical oberliner Jan 2019 #22
She was most excellent! n/t mtngirl47 Jan 2019 #48
very good speech scarytomcat Jan 2019 #71
The crowd yelled, "Lock Them Up" as she came to the podium. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #23
I'm on board. She's a powerhouse civil servant. byronius Jan 2019 #25
She is the recipient of my first donation this cycle. NT Adrahil Jan 2019 #26
I really feel like I am watching the next POTUS oberliner Jan 2019 #27
I said I would not decide until everyone announces and I have time to assess but..... lovemydogs Jan 2019 #30
Home town girl bringing them out lovemydogs Jan 2019 #28
That's not our America malaise Jan 2019 #29
This woman is not just here to sell a book. Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #31
Glad the turnout was so large. Sorry to hear that the primary season is starting already. GoneOffShore Jan 2019 #32
yes that bothers me too scarytomcat Jan 2019 #72
Kamala Harris is . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #33
"We will rise together or we will fall together. " mitch96 Jan 2019 #62
Ditto peggysue2 Jan 2019 #68
Excellent. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #34
I have something in my eye... so inspirational! demmiblue Jan 2019 #35
She has what it takes. backabby-blue Jan 2019 #36
She has me weeping... hope being pulled out of my heart ... "Unity is not uniformity." ancianita Jan 2019 #37
Good. She is a front runner I can be happy and comfortable with... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #38
It looks like there's a lot of excitement for her. liberalmuse Jan 2019 #39
She looks to be extremely formidable oberliner Jan 2019 #40
She does. liberalmuse Jan 2019 #41
Good point - very diverse crowd oberliner Jan 2019 #43
Impressive speech. She's off and running! B Stieg Jan 2019 #42
WOW! Thanks for the report! Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #45
I've already seen a fair amount of anti-Harris stuff coming from the "left" Sapient Donkey Jan 2019 #46
plenty of actual people. the left of our party and of the nation has every much the right JCanete Jan 2019 #57
"Vetting" doesn't mean planting propaganda meant as smears, R B Garr Jan 2019 #74
yeah, I see, only one direction is vetting. That's soooo surprising. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #76
You tried the same hyperbole on Feinstein, who is an elected R B Garr Jan 2019 #77
You mean "one direction" the band? ehrnst Jan 2019 #82
Yup. We have a right and absolute duty to vet our candidates. Hortensis Jan 2019 #81
Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Jan 2019 #66
I hope you don't consider studying her governing history roody Jan 2019 #67
Studying, no. Misrepresenting, yes. Applying double standards, yes. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #84
Fair and honest discussions are always welcome and should be encouraged Sapient Donkey Jan 2019 #87
Chills Up and Down My Spine for the Speech She Just Gave . . OldManTarHeel Jan 2019 #47
I feel the same way oberliner Jan 2019 #49
I loved her speech Gothmog Jan 2019 #51
Her speech was excellent. Kath2 Jan 2019 #52
Shoot. I didn't know she was here wryter2000 Jan 2019 #54
Thanks for posting your experience. We're three-fourths of a nation away... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #56
Didn't catch it but my wife says she reminded her of Obama jcgoldie Jan 2019 #60
Reminded me of RFK oberliner Jan 2019 #78
CSPAN 1 at 6:40 pm PST. I missed it & will catch up then! Hekate Jan 2019 #65
K & R! R B Garr Jan 2019 #75
Great to hear! Harris wants to bring general prosperity, decency Hortensis Jan 2019 #79
My niece stood in that line for hours and got to see her. appleannie1943 Jan 2019 #85
Video Of Rally You Missed corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #88

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. It's great to see California with a Presidential candidate in the running!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jan 2019

And I love that they moved their Primary date up! The primaries will be very interesting to watch!

It’s time for the big states like California who’s taxes are allocated to the small states having more of an impact. California is the 5th largest economy in the WORLD, and a progressive blue state. It has the credentials to lead.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
70. Whichever states go first will have an outsized influence. I just wish the first 2 were states...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:27 AM
Jan 2019

...that actually reflect our diverse electorate. Instead of Iowa and New Hampshire, maybe Illinois and Florida. Or Maryland and Arizona.

How impactful the California primary will be depends, at least in part, on how many candidates are still in the race at that point. If there are still half a dozen or more candidates, we could potentially see a lot of vote/delegate-splitting.

Those first couple states are crucial for Warren, Sanders, Biden, Brown, etc. If Harris wins either Iowa or New Hampshire, she'll be in great shape heading into Nevada and South Carolina ahead of Super Tuesday. If she somehow wins both IA and NH, the race will be over.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
61. Don't forget the Governator Shwartzenegger!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

Yet we have Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsome coming to the rescue! And Nancy Pelosi is ours!

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
63. When I lived in California, we had Pete Wilson, Senator Hayakawa and a whole host of...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

...other creeps.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
64. Yeah, I was there then too
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jan 2019

Proof positive that the creeps can bring out the best just so they can get rid of them.

calimary

(81,261 posts)
86. Yeah. So was I. Very pleasing to see Pete Wilson blow it for GOPers
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

for a generation with the anti-immigrant Prop 187. Thank you, Pete! You may have won the battle (getting yourself elected), but you lost the war. Arnold got in for eight years but he was widely considered a Republican you can kinda live with. But the state legislature is OURS. And GOP will be fighting an uphill battle in California for a LONG time, especially with the demographics changing.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Ok, I'll say it. I think she's got the "Obama factor" going for her
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jan 2019

I stood in one of those ridiculously long lines for Obama here in Jacksonville, and I'll do it again to see Kamala Harris.

We need the excitement and I think she's got it.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
7. Go Kamala Go!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jan 2019

May the best Democratic Canidate win! If it’s was up to me I’d pick Kanala. She will not let the sins of the past go into the move on bucket. The prosecutor in her won’t let this slide.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
15. This is a good point. I'm a Warren fan for her policy proposals on wealth inequal.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jan 2019

But you're right that Harris is likely NOT going to let any crimes from this amdinistration slide. Hmm.. Maybe Warren/Harris? THAT would be a ticket I'd love.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
8. She should have booked the Oakland Coliseum
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jan 2019

I guess it's better to have a huge jam up in a smaller space than have not enough people. I'm excited for her. People on Twitter reporting they came from as far away as San Diego for this! So it isn't just locals.

I'm watching on YouTube from home, but I was tempted to go. Glad I didn't try, the pics look insane.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
9. ah...yeah. It appears to me she's going to be the major frontrunner in this race,
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jan 2019

and I'm thinking the big donors "see" this too....she's a good one to bet on and she's not going to burn down their empires.(not to take away from her actual popularity, because apparently she just pulled a crap load of small donor money, and she certainly has some good progressive stances to hang her hat on).

But given that California moved up its primary date, that will probably give her a major early boost.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
24. She is clearly one of the frontrunners already
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

She just topped the Daily Kos poll - which is non scientific and is certainly not representative of all Democrats, but her leap this week is a good sign. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/426625-kamala-harris-leads-2020-dem-field-in-second-daily-kos-straw-poll

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
83. She's not taking corporate PAC money, so I don't see the issue with her donors.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jan 2019

And even if she was, it's still legal. Interesting that she's so far ahead of the pack, even without it.

And she's transparent with her personal finances, so there's that putting her far ahead of some others.

She hasn't made the mistake of saying Democratic voters who support others have bad judgement or called them her "opponents."



SunSeeker

(51,551 posts)
12. Excellent! She's the only one of the candidates I've actually met and I think she's great!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
14. I tried watching on YouTube. The side comments are just too nasty. These RW-Nazi-lovers stink!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:22 PM
Jan 2019

Just can't believe so many people are so hateful.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
18. I know. I just don't bother to read them
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jan 2019

Major events seem to attract the haters and nasty provocateurs first. Then after a while, after they have poisoned the well, they go away and normal people come out.

It's a good sign really because this must be a major event or the haters would have stayed home.

kimbutgar

(21,141 posts)
17. I saw my first smear on her today in the Daily Mail
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:35 PM
Jan 2019

I'm a native San Franciscan and knew about a relationship she had. I wondered when they would start going after her on it. The right wing will be trying to push the story to take her down. But it is a big nothing story.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
30. I said I would not decide until everyone announces and I have time to assess but.....
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jan 2019

I have been keeping an eye on this lady for awhile.
Must admit she is on my list....the only one so far

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
28. Home town girl bringing them out
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jan 2019

She would be fun to see.
I remember in 08 when Obama announced in Springfield. My husband & I lived 3 hours north of Springfield by the border with Wisc.
We got up super early and drove to see him.
It was a high of 9 degrees.
And still by the time we got there it was so crowded that Obama was a little speck far away. sigh

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
32. Glad the turnout was so large. Sorry to hear that the primary season is starting already.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

The fact that the midterms are just finished and that now we're starting to look at primaries and the next election means that the US system is, as we all know, seriously fucked up.
And unfortunately, because of the 24 hour news cycle, our insanity is infectious and is starting to proliferate throughout the rest of the world.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
72. yes that bothers me too
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:19 AM
Jan 2019

It would be nice to get a break from campaigning and get some work done. Some investigations, budgets and the work of the people need to should go on.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
33. Kamala Harris is . . .
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

a force to be reckoned with and will be a fierce 2020 candidate.

We will rise together or we will fall together.

A modern take on an old but very wise adage. She's good. She's very good!

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
62. "We will rise together or we will fall together. "
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jan 2019

I hope she can get out the minority and female vote.. .That will be great to have another blue wave wash over those repukes in Washington...
m

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
68. Ditto
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:43 AM
Jan 2019
That will be great to have another blue wave wash over those repukes in Washington...

Oh, yes it will!!!
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
38. Good. She is a front runner I can be happy and comfortable with...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jan 2019

I can't say I have a favorite with. Things I like and things I take issue with for all of them, except 2 or 3 who I wouldn't support in a primary under any circumstances unless they were the Democratic nominee.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
39. It looks like there's a lot of excitement for her.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jan 2019

We need this. I'd been hoping she'd run for awhile now. I guess we'll have to wait and see which Democratic candidate comes out on top, but so far, so good for Kamala Harris!

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
41. She does.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jan 2019

The crowd was America, including white men in business suits. She seems to attract all demographics. Loving it!

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
46. I've already seen a fair amount of anti-Harris stuff coming from the "left"
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

Not sure if they are actual people or more shenanigans by certain troll farms. Either way, it's probably worth the effort to monitor what they are saying to come up with logical and rational answers to their shit.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
57. plenty of actual people. the left of our party and of the nation has every much the right
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jan 2019

to vet the candidates as we do. Sanders will be vetted, Warren, Gabbard...etc. You think that the left didn't have negative things to say about Gabbard or Ojeta? I invite you to check out Kulinski, majority report, tyt, etc. They like a lot about her but don't shy away from their major issues, some of which appear to be deal breakers, assuming she is outperformed on those issues by her opponents.

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
74. "Vetting" doesn't mean planting propaganda meant as smears,
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:18 AM
Jan 2019

like was done to Hillary. Injecting one man’s version of corruption like repeating “big donors” as a means to denigrate her isn’t vettiing. Releasing taxes would be an example of vetting...

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
77. You tried the same hyperbole on Feinstein, who is an elected
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:20 AM
Jan 2019

public servant since the 70’s, but you tried to pin her long-standing name recognition on “big donors” which has been parroted especially since 2015. It’s obviously meant to smear Harris, as well as Clinton and Feinstein.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
82. You mean "one direction" the band?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:15 AM
Jan 2019

Because, I'm not seeing any other single "direction" of vetting.

Then again, I don't have an aching need to see one-sidedness where none exists.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. Yup. We have a right and absolute duty to vet our candidates.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jan 2019

While we can't vet what's being carefully kept from us, we can and certainly should question what withholding information indicates all by itself.

IronLionZion

(45,441 posts)
66. Welcome to DU!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jan 2019

Trolls will always try to divide us and claim our candidates aren't liberal enough while the GOP will claim she's to the left of Lenin. That usually means they're afraid she'll win.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
87. Fair and honest discussions are always welcome and should be encouraged
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:55 PM
Jan 2019

With Harris I believe there are at least a couple elephants in the room that need to be discussed and explored. For example, I didn't realize her office was the one who made the comment about releasing prisoners would harm fire camp participation. She came out and against that later, but I think it's a good idea to confront her on that and get the details on why that was even said in the first place. There is also a particular case in which she defended a prosecutor who did some shady stuff in a trial against a child molester.

I'm all for discussing those and getting her to explain those. However, I am also all for including all the positive things she did too, and not just focusing on the negative. I am also against making up lies or stretching the truth to turn people against her. One example of a lie is that I saw on protest signs and I saw people posting social media saying she's pro-death penalty. As far as I can tell, that doesn't seem to be the case. She has stated she's anti-death penalty and in every case I've seen she has recommended against the death penalty despite pressure to push for it. Then there is the twisting truths in which it is claimed she is evil because she locks up and warehouses drug offenders. What's left out is that while there be higher conviction rates of these offenses, these people are being sent to treatment programs instead of being warehoused. This seems a lot like the attack on Beto a couple months back in which it was claimed he was beholden to oil & gas companies because second only to cruz he received the most money from people associated with oil & gas. But what was left out is that he didn't receive corporate money, but rather it was donations from regular people who happen to work in oil & gas. Which makes sense given he's in Texas and oil & gas employ a lot of people in Texas. It's just disingenuous.

The other attacks against Harris that concern me probably more than anything because there isn't much that can be said to counter them, are the attacks against her identity. For an example of what I mean, search 'Tariq Nasheed Kamala harris' on twitter to see what sort of stuff I am talking about. There's a large contingent of folks around him who have a lot of sway, who are saying some very ignorant and divisive things. There some core people there who have some sway with a lot of folks who would usually vote democrat, who may be swayed to not vote based on these words. If I was a republican operative or maybe a foreign government who wanted to harm a candidate, then I would focus in on messages like these and amplify them to make them appear more mainstream and accepted.These tribal and divisive messages are really difficult to combat once they get out of hand. It really is a form of hacking the human mind.

Also, when someone says that Harris is a female Obama and they say it like it's a negative thing, then we probably have totally different ideas about what we want for our country.

*I'm not nessecarily pro-Harris at this point. I'm just anti-bullshit.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
54. Shoot. I didn't know she was here
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

I probably couldn't have gotten within a mile of her, anyway. Glad to hear it was such a big crowd.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
56. Thanks for posting your experience. We're three-fourths of a nation away...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

and can feel the warmth of this Democratic rally. Although it's still very early, it feels so wonderful just to read about this diverse and huge turnout!

............ ........... ...........

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
79. Great to hear! Harris wants to bring general prosperity, decency
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:27 AM
Jan 2019

and stability back in the improved form an advancing society should strive for, but overall a restoration of the America we grew up believing in. Those are the kind of positive, principled, liberal, achievable, egalitarian goals once again that I'll always vote for.

Btw, some billionaire named Howard Schultz intends to enter the race as a (self-funded?) populist leader, intending to draw from both right and left those who believe they need "change" from what corrupt fools like Kamala Harris and whoever the Republicans nominate offer.

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