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Cattledog

(5,917 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:14 PM Jan 2019

Schultz is a weasel.

When Scott Pelley asked him if he was worried that he would siphon off enough Democratic votes to ensure
a second Trump term he not only didn't answer the question, he reverted to talking points. He's another egotist like Perot and Nader.

A vote for Schultz is a vote for Trump.

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Schultz is a weasel. (Original Post) Cattledog Jan 2019 OP
He will ultimately not run BlueintheSTL Jan 2019 #1
+1 DinahMoeHum Jan 2019 #4
Free advertising for his company. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7
Not very good Cha Jan 2019 #18
January, 2019 Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #24
And in that interview, I saw no charisma at all. n/t ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #33
I think he may be trying to start a discussion... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #34
He has a book coming out. Boosting sales. JHB Jan 2019 #38
if he has business in Russia he can fuck off ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #2
Pretty sure Starbucks is in Moscow... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #14
Moscow, Idaho maxsolomon Jan 2019 #37
He has at least 120 locations in Russia dalton99a Jan 2019 #31
I agree duforsure Jan 2019 #40
It is Corgigal Jan 2019 #3
I give up. We're doomed. Doomed I tell ya. walkingman Jan 2019 #5
So what? Let repubs vote for him Miigwech Jan 2019 #6
The Independant voters are important to any candidate. n/t mtngirl47 Jan 2019 #20
He's been a democrat for 30 years marlakay Jan 2019 #29
He's No Labels and I bet he's being encouraged to run by the likes of Lieberman and octoberlib Jan 2019 #8
Starbucks Boycott on twitter obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #9
I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #15
It sucks. Period. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #22
I haven't drank Starbucks since Shultz sold the Seattle Supersonics to the Okies form Muskogee Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #26
Weasel. A vote for him is a vote for Trump. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #10
Steve Schmidt is a paid consultant for his run Ruby the Liberal Jan 2019 #11
who ? JI7 Jan 2019 #12
That phrase carries weight pecosbob Jan 2019 #13
This sounds like an ego candidacy Leith Jan 2019 #16
I will NEVER for for a CEO for president. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #17
Yep.. mountain grammy Jan 2019 #19
Any billionaires can fuck right on off snort Jan 2019 #21
& another thread says Steve SCHMITD is his adviser to run. UTUSN Jan 2019 #23
If Shultz runs, I cease to be a customer. TomSlick Jan 2019 #25
Perot, Nader and Jill Stein BadgerMom Jan 2019 #27
I took full note of that. Mira Jan 2019 #28
"What's his value proposition for America? Make America like a corporate chain?" dalton99a Jan 2019 #30
Perot knew he would take more vote away from Bush than Clinton bigbrother05 Jan 2019 #32
Spot on bigbrother njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #35
He would be another Nader handing victory to Republications. Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #36
Another one of the "LET THEM EAT CAKE!" Brigade citizen blues Jan 2019 #39
 

BlueintheSTL

(135 posts)
1. He will ultimately not run
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jan 2019

Book it. Just looking for some attention for whatever reason. I would not get worried about him.

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
24. January, 2019
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:43 PM
Jan 2019

Talk is still cheap phase. I would think he is likely a terrible candidate with a typical, over-simplistic obsession to being chief executive.

Also there are a lot more moving parts in the U.S. Government than in a coffee franchise, and he should take as much time learning those as he took learning the coffee biz.

Business-owners like him in 2019 have an almost religious zeal about simplicity---declaring it a magic elixir for anything that ails government or society. But sometimes that attachment to simplicity is borne out of their inexperience in grasping all of the moving parts of a complex issue. They have no choice but to be simple, "complicated" is over their head.

Over-simplification is what elected Trump. Nobody wants to ever go there again; as well as electing a president specifically because he has no government experience. So Shultz's candidacy is half-over before it even gets starts.

Sorry for the rant.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. I think he may be trying to start a discussion...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jan 2019

about healthcare and other things, that aren't so extremist...as the two major parties go to their corners and propose what he considers exteme positions.

He retired from Starbucks, so he has no business to increase his brand for. Unless he has something else planned. OR maybe he left Starbucks in preparation for this.

I guess we'll find out.

I noticed that he didn't answer that question about siphoning off votes. Not a good answer.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
38. He has a book coming out. Boosting sales.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:05 PM
Jan 2019

I mean, how many people would actually buy it without buzz like this?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
40. I agree
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 07:14 AM
Jan 2019

He will only anger people , and drive them away from Starbucks for it. Anyone remember Papa John's, and how he hurt that business?

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
3. It is
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:18 PM
Jan 2019

but his book. Baristas start at under 8 bucks an hour, but he's amazed Americans don't have 400 dollars.

Liar.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
6. So what? Let repubs vote for him
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 09:03 PM
Jan 2019

lets hope Democrats don't fall for the same third party crap from the last election!

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. He's No Labels and I bet he's being encouraged to run by the likes of Lieberman and
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 09:08 PM
Jan 2019

Mark Penn. I mean, he was a lifelong Dem and now he thinks they're far, far left. Ratfucker.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
15. I boycott Starbucks because their coffee sucks...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 09:56 PM
Jan 2019


(Well, maybe not "sucks" per se, but I prefer other stands)

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
22. It sucks. Period.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jan 2019

Satarbucks is some of the worst. We have some really good coffee shops in my neighborhood.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
26. I haven't drank Starbucks since Shultz sold the Seattle Supersonics to the Okies form Muskogee
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jan 2019

Don't trust that guy ever.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
11. Steve Schmidt is a paid consultant for his run
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 09:32 PM
Jan 2019

Remember that the next time he is crying his crocodile tears on MSNBC about how "his party" left him. He of all people knows this isn't a winning hand - and could help reelect Trump.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
16. This sounds like an ego candidacy
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:00 PM
Jan 2019

I never heard of him before today. So, he's a CEO of a chain of coffee shops - is he any more qualified for the presidency than the horrendous failure now occupying the office? I'm guessing that he isn't.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. I will NEVER for for a CEO for president.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jan 2019

I would have thought that the current WH occupant would have proved to anyone beyond a shadow of a doubt that CEOs are ill-equipped to run government.

snort

(2,334 posts)
21. Any billionaires can fuck right on off
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jan 2019

as far as I am concerned. NO! You never struggled then you don't get it, period!

Mira

(22,380 posts)
28. I took full note of that.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:03 PM
Jan 2019

He’s in it for his ego. Won’t ever consider him, though his accomplishments are impressive. He lost me with that question.

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
30. "What's his value proposition for America? Make America like a corporate chain?"
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:40 PM
Jan 2019
“Trump’s strategy has always been divide and conquer, and this plays directly into his hands,” said one Democratic strategist, who was wary of taking on Schultz openly ahead of any announcement. “He’s Ralph Nader without any of Nader’s redeeming qualities. What’s his value proposition for America? Make America like a corporate chain?”


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/howard-schultzs-independent-run-could-help-trump/581374/

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
32. Perot knew he would take more vote away from Bush than Clinton
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jan 2019

He had serious policy proposals as well. His ego told him he had a chance, but his head knew Clinton would be better than an extension of Reagan/Bush.

Nader just wanted to punish the folks that tried to ignore him. The real villain was butterfly ballot that gave Buchanan enough Gore votes to swing FL. Gore's choice of Lieberman the scold probably lost more votes than Nader got.

All my opinion based on living through both elections and being particularly close to the 1992 race.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
36. He would be another Nader handing victory to Republications.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

Another similar spoiler in reverse was billionaire Ross Perot, who leaned more conservative and pulled enough votes to give victory to Bill Clinton.

No way can a third party candidate win in today's environment where the nation is so polarized, and a candidate who would likely pull more votes from Democrats than Trump is the worst nightmare.

Someone should start a petition saying everyone will boycott Starbucks if he runs as an independent, and urge him to either stay out of the race, or run in one of the two mainstream political parties.

If he wants to run in a primary as a Dem like everyone else, I'd have no objections but don't think he'd have a chance against the seasoned field of strong contenders. If he or some other rich businessman ran as a rethug (doubtful given his ideology) he might actually pull some votes away from Trump voters who liked the idea of voting for a business mogul.




citizen blues

(570 posts)
39. Another one of the "LET THEM EAT CAKE!" Brigade
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:51 PM
Jan 2019

I want someone qualified in the White House next time. Someone with experience in how Washington works. Someone who can navigate the halls of Congress and not surround herself with crooks, criminals and corruption.

This is government we're talking about, not a board room. Two different things. If Schulz doesn't get that, he's unqualified to begin with. If he did get it, he wouldn't even be considering running. He's just one more self-absorbed, narcissistic, arrogant plutocrat who's hell-bent on bankrupting our country while lining his own pockets.

Schulz is joke!

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