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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts) Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:03 AM Jan 2019

Howard Schultz Dismisses Concerns That Running As An Independent Will Pull Votes From Democrats

The rumors of a presidential run for former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz have lingered for weeks and, on Sunday's 60 Minutes, Schultz confirmed that he is "seriously thinking" about launching a campaign.

However, Schultz, a longtime Democrat, said that he would launch his bid for the White House as an Independent.

"I am seriously thinking of running for president," Schultz said. "I will run as a centrist independent, outside of the two-party system we're living at a most-fragile time not only the fact that this president is not qualified to be the president, but the fact that both parties are consistently not doing what's necessary on behalf of the American people and are engaged, every single day, in revenge politics.

CBS, the network that airs 60 Minutes, released a clip of Howard's plan to run outside of the two-party system, launching a series of complaints and criticism from Democrats that fear Schultz running on an Independent ticket would split votes from Democratic voters and lead to President Donald Trump being re-elected.

Journalist Scott Pelley asked Schultz about those concerns, with the potential candidate dismissing them.

"I wanna see the American people win. I wanna see America win. I don't care if you're a Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, Republican. Bring me your ideas. And I will be an independent person, who will embrace those ideas. Because I am not, in any way, in bed with a party," Schultz said.

https://www.newsweek.com/howard-schultz-dismisses-concerns-running-independent-will-pull-votes-1306915?utm_source=Public&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Distribution

Hey Howard, go fuck yourself.

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Howard Schultz Dismisses Concerns That Running As An Independent Will Pull Votes From Democrats (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP

As I said in your other thread Blecht Jan 2019 #1

How much is Putin paying this guy to be the next Jill Stein? OliverQ Jan 2019 #2

That is the obvious thought alright. I hope he is treated like a pariah, until he gets the message. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #23

Someone on MSNBC brought up a new thought... BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #3

We have lots of other coffee shops marlakay Jan 2019 #5

Al Sharpion said it... 2naSalit Jan 2019 #18

I think you're right, it was someone on his show over the weekend. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #32

A Democrat wouldn't do a Ralph Nader. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #4

That is exactly right still_one Jan 2019 #14

Contact him here: greyl Jan 2019 #6

Reading comments on twitter marlakay Jan 2019 #12

Just like Nader MFM008 Jan 2019 #7

Honestly I haven't heard much on his positions. Joe941 Jan 2019 #8

Why in hell would you bother with a third party Control-Z Jan 2019 #11

He's saying he would run in opposition to the Democrat. This isn't a place to support non-Democrats. pnwmom Jan 2019 #16

From what I understand he is a democrat. Joe941 Jan 2019 #31

A vote for Schultz is a vote for Trump pecosbob Jan 2019 #9

Howard Schultz's political experience Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #10

And he tried to annex part of a park into his yard RainCaster Jan 2019 #15

NO MORE billionaires. roamer65 Jan 2019 #13

Fuck him. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #17

No way! duforsure Jan 2019 #19

I would boycott his stores 2naSalit Jan 2019 #20

This is all about Schultz's ego. It's a vanity run. octoberlib Jan 2019 #21

What an asshole uponit7771 Jan 2019 #22

Howard Schultz: "I Have A Book To Sell". hatrack Jan 2019 #24

You know what you're right....like this guy is going to have any staying power. NOPE. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #26

I heard very little of his interview but I did see how he said the parties are the same and not UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #25

The Dems CAN'T because the GOP has too much power. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #33

Question mercuryblues Jan 2019 #27

Bernie is not running as an Independent oberliner Jan 2019 #29

Is Steve Schmidt advising him? oberliner Jan 2019 #28

No way quitnesset Jan 2019 #30

Never heard of this guy until some Dems started talking 70% tax. Vinca Jan 2019 #34

Blecht

(3,803 posts)

1. As I said in your other thread

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

Jan 2019

I'll pitch in for lube for him.

And how many of these threads are really necessary?

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)

2. How much is Putin paying this guy to be the next Jill Stein?

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

Jan 2019

OnDoutside

(19,965 posts)

23. That is the obvious thought alright. I hope he is treated like a pariah, until he gets the message.

Reply to OliverQ (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:23 AM

Jan 2019

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)

3. Someone on MSNBC brought up a new thought...

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:55 AM

Jan 2019

he said that if a third party takes votes from the Dems that Dem voters would boycott Starbucks over it and Howard will lose some $$$.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)

5. We have lots of other coffee shops

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:03 AM

Jan 2019

If he really joins to run I will make sure we never go there again.

And when it gets close to voting I say we should protest with signs saying he is helping Trump at Starbucks all over.

2naSalit

(86,743 posts)

18. Al Sharpion said it...

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:19 AM

Jan 2019

and maybe others but I caught it on his show when I looked to see what was on the livestream.

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)

32. I think you're right, it was someone on his show over the weekend.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:58 PM

Jan 2019

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)

4. A Democrat wouldn't do a Ralph Nader.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

Jan 2019

still_one

(92,325 posts)

14. That is exactly right

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:59 AM

Jan 2019

greyl

(22,990 posts)

6. Contact him here:

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:09 AM

Jan 2019

https://www.howardschultz.com/contact-us/

https://twitter.com/HowardSchultz

Edit: His book went on sale January 28, 2019, about 9 minutes ago. I think selling those is probably all he's interested in.

https://amzn.to/2COHBj4

marlakay

(11,482 posts)

12. Reading comments on twitter

Reply to greyl (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:10 AM

Jan 2019

Not one person told him to run, everyone begged him not to or to run as a dem.

I hope he reads them.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)

7. Just like Nader

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:16 AM

Jan 2019

Just like Stein
Just like ______________________________.

Joe941

(2,848 posts)

8. Honestly I haven't heard much on his positions.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:28 AM

Jan 2019

I'll certainly listen to what he has to say.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)

11. Why in hell would you bother with a third party

Reply to Joe941 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:54 AM

Jan 2019

candidate? The only thing that does is take votes away from whoever the Democratic nominee will be. That's it. There is nothing else. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

Might as well stay home or vote for the republican.

Btw, this is not an opinion, it is a fact.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)

16. He's saying he would run in opposition to the Democrat. This isn't a place to support non-Democrats.

Reply to Joe941 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:33 AM

Jan 2019

Joe941

(2,848 posts)

31. From what I understand he is a democrat.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:11 AM

Jan 2019

But 3rd party candidates are almost never viable. Our voting system pretty much mandates a 2 party system since we don't require >50% to win an election.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)

9. A vote for Schultz is a vote for Trump

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:36 AM

Jan 2019

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)

10. Howard Schultz's political experience

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:45 AM

Jan 2019

Link to tweet

RainCaster

(10,908 posts)

15. And he tried to annex part of a park into his yard

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:28 AM

Jan 2019

I think his notion of Public Service may be as skewed as DFT's.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

13. NO MORE billionaires.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:11 AM

Jan 2019

Period.

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

17. Fuck him.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 04:32 AM

Jan 2019

If he runs, I will never patronize Starbucks again in my life. Go ahead, Howard. Prepare to be humiliated and to be the most hated man in the liberal community.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)

19. No way!

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:24 AM

Jan 2019

He has zero chance.

2naSalit

(86,743 posts)

20. I would boycott his stores

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:24 AM

Jan 2019

but I have to go way out of my way to get to one, like 70 miles, so no problem there. Every time I have ever been to one, they couldn't get my order right... And they don't sell Fair Trade coffee so I would not go there anyway.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)

21. This is all about Schultz's ego. It's a vanity run.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:40 AM

Jan 2019

It’s also occurred to me that since Schultz is a member of No Labels , he’s being encouraged by Joe Lieberman and Mark Penn behind the scenes. Both of them are ratfuckers of the highest order