General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSteve Schmidt is a fake Never Trumper
You misled me. You're a hypocrite. I foolishly vouched for you. You suck:
Schmidt said, Theres a question that he poses. And the question is a pretty simple one: Is this it? Are we fated to be in this duopoly in perpetuity? Is this the best that we can hope for, or is there potentially a disruption that could occur? We have 57 choices of ketchup and 500 TV channels. Very nearly everything has been disrupted in the country, from how we buy groceries to how we consume news, except for the system that produces the political leadership of the country.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/28/howard-schultz-2020-democrats-1132068
This is wishcasting or motivated reasoning, at its best or its worst, depending on your perspective. If a popular former president couldn't win as a third party candidate a purveyor of overpriced coffee surely cant. It's the only lifeline Trump has.
Maybe you can get Sarah Palin to be Mr. Coffee's running mate. Oh, Bill Burton, you suck too. As Jesus said to Judas it would have been better if you never were born
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)can swoop in and get all the center and moderate folks. It's absurd. If Schmidt was gonna hang his hat on someone it shouldn't be him since CLEARLY he is not a viable candidate and that is just common sense.
JHB
(37,162 posts)...Eisenhower would qualify as "too far left."
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Asking for the bottom 99%.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)And you are making up a rationale that is ridiculous.
JHB
(37,162 posts)As entertaining as they can be in their rhetoric, every one who is a regular "name" made their careers in Republican campaigns, Republican messaging, and/or conservative media.
They are the busy bees who spent their entire adult lives building Trump's base. Once Trump is plastered over as the Face of the Republican Party, they'll go right back to what they've devoted their lives to: Making America a Dickensian pesthole.
If you ever vouched for him, yes -- that was foolish and ill-considered. As far as they're concerned, we're here to do their heavy lifting until the drudge work is done, and then they'll shiv us in the kidneys if you give them even an ounce of goodwill.
brush
(53,876 posts)signed on for some of that money.
After all his eloquence against trump too. What a disappointment. A good reminder though, repugs, even anti-trump repugs, are still all about the money.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Various Republicans, including members of the media and retiring Congresspersons, have been critical of Trump. Steve Schmidt, Republican Party strategist turned TV pundit and Trump critic, has even renounced his Republican Party membership. Schmidt tweeted, "29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump."
Now, let me preface what I'm about to write by saying the more people that recognize the horrors of the Trump Administration the better. But let's be clear about a few things. Trump and his base of support is a monster of the Republican Party's making, a monster who was 50 years in the making. The Southern Strategy and racist dog whistling has been modus operandi for the GOP for longer than Steve Schmidt has been alive. Schmidt turned eighteen as Ronald Reagan's administration was coming to an end. I imagine Reagan inspired Schmidt to register as a Republican. Reagan, the man who basically kicked off his 1980 presidential campaign by giving a speech about "states' rights" less than ten miles from Philadelphia, MS, where three civil rights workers were murdered. Every other Republican presidential candidate, from Nixon to Bush to McCain to Romney, has also engaged in dog whistling.
In addition, the Republican Party has engaged in race-based gerrymandering and race-based voter suppression. The Republican Party has also fomented and exploited sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, jingoism and hatred of LGBTQ persons. The Republican Party has undermined trust in government by infusing government with incompetence and corruption. The Republican Party has also fostered the "liberal media" myth, which has contributed to a highly irresponsible infotainment industry that promotes false equivalencies and seems unwilling to label facts as facts and lies as lies (out, I suppose, of some twisted sense of what constitutes fairness or balance).
All of the above made the rise of Trump or someone like him almost inevitable. So, all I can suggest to Republicans who are critical of Trump is that you keep scrubbing those hands. The blood won't come out easily, but you have to keep scrubbing.
Let me make one more point before closing. Unless one is genuinely ignorant of history, it is utterly disingenuous to suggest that the Republican Party of today (or pre-Trump) is anything like the Republican Party that was started by anti-slavery Whigs. Nor is today's GOP the "party of Lincoln," as some like to claim (Lincoln, by the way, was no abolitionist). Mr. Schmidt, the pre-Trump Republican Party is no more the Republican Party of 1854 than today's Democratic Party is the Democratic Party of pre-1964 Strom Thurmond.
Why call out Republicans who are critical of Trump, one might ask. The reason is simple. Republicans need to take ownership. We need to be clear about who Republicans have been for half a century now. All persons of conscience must guard against this notion that all will be well or "normal" if we simply rid this nation of Donald J. Trump. All is not well. Republicans have very deliberately created a monster, which was born before Trump moved into the White House and will undoubtedly survive long after Trump is gone. Own it, Republicans. Own it.
If we let the Never Trumpers get away with this narrative, I guarantee you they'll set the stage for the rise of yet another demagogue.
Lastly, to all those persons of conscience, vote for Democrats in November. The party may not be perfect, but it's the only thing standing in the way of authoritarianism, the only thing standing in the way of fascism. If you've never voted before, 2018 would be a good time to start. Your Social Security, your health insurance or your child's health insurance, and your very life may depend on it. Please vote.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)It pissed me off when they all got prime airtime. They are opportunists, and will always return to their roots.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Anyone who is in denial about how the pre-Trump Republican Party made Trump possible is not someone I can respect. Those who worship at the alter of Saint Ronnie can kiss my ass.
And the "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" stance has always been built on a foundation of bullshit.
Demonaut
(8,927 posts)he hates trump
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Lust for filthy lucre> hate for Trump.
Demonaut
(8,927 posts)I want to hear his voice, his opinions and insults.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Tweet from Robert Costa:
Robert Costa
?Verified account @costareports
6h6 hours ago
NEWS: Former Obama WH adviser Bill Burton is joining Howard Schultzs team as a top aide and communications strategist, per two people familiar with the hire. Burton was unavail for comment, Schultz spokes declined to comment.
I guess Schultz is trying to be that ever elusive "moderate centrist" so many talking heads pine for. If he does manage to get on the ballot in every state, I'd bet right now half his voters would think they're voting for Howard Stern and the other half for George Schultz or possibly Sgt Schultz.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)that's all.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)How you didn't see that coming, I'll never know.
mcar
(42,376 posts)But always recognized that they are Republicans, through and through.
They are not on our side.
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)He getting a bit over the top, too. Doing the typical RW fillibustering on talk shows.