to all the news organizations on the planet to start investigating this group and Ms. gabbard.

Blackguards and scoundrels do this stuff.

why does this have the Reverend Jeremiah Wright/ Obama feel to it??

Didn't she address this already..

is that they're looking into the cult and the guru dev because of Tulsi's association. So Butler is now threatening the lawsuit.

And, no, she did NOT address this threatened lawsuit against the newspaper.

I skimmed through it (the article) - it seems the paper has an agenda.. I'll have to see why she is suing and how she is involved..

because of the reporting by the newspaper on Tulsi and her background in the cult centered around Chris Butler.

This has nothing to do with her past LGBT attacks.

of her guru, Chris Butler, threatening to sue a newspaper for doing investigative stories on her involvement in his Science of Identity Foundation.

I saw that article, and I think it's what led me to Christine's 3 part series on the Science of Identify Foundation.

And it really jumped out at me when I realized that Butler and his Foundation have been using a publicist to threaten Christine, Chris Cooper in DC, who also worked for the Russian lawyer who's a target of the Mueller investigation.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211696742

it was when he was born? His brother's name is Kurt. Just a guess.

Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff going on.. why would they try to suppress news about their Science of Identity religion or whatever it is?

Gabbard's put herself out there for potus nominee.. so she is going to be investigated whether they like it or not.

Somehow, some otherwise intelligent people think it's better if we pick a nominee and only find out after the primaries what issues the R's might attack them with.

Or what kind of President they might turn out to be.

than have it shone after it's too late to choose someone who is a much better candidate.

It seems like people always like to try to throw crap like this at Democrats - especially when they aren't white and/or Christian.

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And his group is much more like Scientology than to the leftwing Christianity of Rev. Right.

Would you be equally comfortable with a dedicated Scientologist as the Democratic nominee? And if Scientology was threatening to sue a newspaper for reporting on it?

The key difference between Butler and religious figures like Wright is the question of the degree of control Butler has of the followers and the degree of his organization's SECRECY. The Star Advertiser wants to look into that. You didn't see Rev. Wright threatening to sue anybody for reporting about his religion.

This is by a woman who grew up in the group surrounding Chris Butler, during the same era as Tulsi, who maintains her connection with the group.

https://medium.com/lalitamann/an-insiders-perspective-on-tulsi-gabbard-and-her-guru-e2650f0d09

I was recently asked a question about US politics that is related to an issue very close to my heart. In the US there is a state representative, Tulsi Gabbard, who is gaining attention and interest of the media and general public. To most, this politician seems amiable, a war veteran who is attractive and articulate, who has had an interesting life and seems very together. I get her appeal. But to me, I know the awful truth behind her amicable facade.

I grew up in what is now termed a High Demand, Closed Group. Most people know them as cults, but personally I detest the term cult because it usually conjures images of Kool Aid and terrible TV shows featuring Kevin Bacon. That’s not what I grew up in. Instead a High Demand Closed Group is a group that has isolated itself from mainstream life and lives by the demanding and usually arbitrary rules set by the leader of the group. The leader is usually a charasmatic personality who encourages their followers to treat them as some sort of Messiah. The entire group dynamic is centred around gaining favour of the leader, who uses this dynamic in a controlling and abusive manner. In many of these groups the leader uses their position to manipulate their followers into performing sexual acts against their will, or in others, the relationship becomes emotionally abusive, where the leader verbally or physically attacks their followers, doling out increasingly severe punishments including sleep deprivation, starvation and physical self harm. The latter is the type of group that I grew up in.

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I also remember Chris Butler held this larger than life presence in my childhood. Everything I did I had to think about how it benefitted him. He was my parents spiritual master and they looked to him for guidance on everything, from what to eat, to how to raise their children, and they did it all without question. When I talk to people about the lack of questioning, they find that aspect odd. It is odd, but to put it into perspective, I was raised to believe Chris Butler was God’s voice on earth, and if you questioned him or offended him in any way, you were effectively offending God, and because we believed in reincarnation, that meant that you would be reborn as the lowest lifeform imaginable and then have to spend eon’s working your way back into God’s good graces. So questioning the leader was spiritual suicide, which was seen as worse than death. So no-one questioned. Chris Butler also would ridicule the intelligence of anyone he didn’t like, belittling anyone he felt was questioning his authority even slightly. He demanded the utmost dedication and loyalty from his followers and if he didn’t get it, the punishments were swift and severe. I remember hearing stories of people who were told they weren’t allowed to eat because they didn’t make food to his liking, who were not allowed to sleep because there was a light making a buzzing noise in the house, and the follower didn’t have the foresight to fix the issue ahead of time.

Literally everything we did had to go through Chris. If you wanted to work outside of the group, you had to ask his permission.

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would be running for President today?

talking about.

peculiar viewpoints or questionable behaviors. Trump's a huge example, of course, but these magnets can be found on the right, or on the left, or, as the case may be, perambulating from whatever to whatever.

(Obama, of course, was a very solid, principled person who happened to be black. Thus he was an unusual case whose variations from norms weren't the draw, just his skin color.)

330,000,000 people in this nation alone, lots of peculiar viewpoints.

and Tulsi, good luck to you with all this