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TheBlackAdder

(28,222 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:53 AM Jan 2019

Howard Schultz's presidential dream crushed by Paul Krugman in devastating 'nobody wants him' tweets

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Take the hint, Howard!


Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman likely put a huge dent in the presidential aspirations of former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz on Tuesday morning in a series of tweets that exposed the businessman as nothing more than a conservative posing as a centrist.

Along the way, he mocked the idea that the country is clamoring for Schultz to run, snarking, “Who says there are any Schultz voters? Aside from immediate family, and given secret ballots not sure about them.”

In the series of tweets, the New York Times columnist called out Schultz for a presidential campaign that seems based on an oversized ego, saying he may not last long in the public eye.

“Howard Schultz may go away once he realizes that nobody wants him,” Krugman tweeted. ” Or maybe not: with great wealth comes great ego, plus people who will feed it. But let’s treat this as a teachable moment about what centrism means in America today “

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/howard-schultzs-presidential-dream-crushed-paul-krugman-devastating-nobody-wants-tweetstorm/




Paul Krugman
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Howard Schultz may go away once he realizes that nobody wants him. Or maybe not: with great wealth comes great ego, plus people who will feed it. But let's treat this as a teachable moment about what centrism means in America today 1/

On economics, Schultz is way to the right of the public 2/

As I pointed out in my column today, the public wants higher taxes on the rich and more spending on social programs 3/

What fraction of voters wants Social Security cuts, a staple of centrist positioning? 6 percent. No, there isn't a digit missing. 4/

More generally, the socially-liberal/economically conservative position -- the lower right quadrant in this figure -- is basically the Empty Quadrant of American politics -- except in green rooms 5/

But boy, is it heavily represented in those green rooms. For Schultz is basically the very model of a major modern centrist. Remember, the Simpson-Bowles report, which induced rapture in the Beltway establishment, called for CUTS in marginal tax rates 6/

And concern about fiscal responsibility was always selective. Awards for Paul Ryan; effective silence when the Trump tax cut blew up the deficit; but constant stern lectures to Democrats about how they must pay for their promises 7/

The point is that while Schultz is especially awful in his timing and egotism, his messed-up priorities are unfortunately all too typical in the green-room set, which doesn't seem to have learned anything from the debacles of recent years 8/

As I was saying: centrist on the right, only attacks Democrats 9/



One again, take the fucking hint, Howard!

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Howard Schultz's presidential dream crushed by Paul Krugman in devastating 'nobody wants him' tweets (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 OP
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #1
"centrist on the right, only attacks Democrats" MagickMuffin Jan 2019 #2
Schultz clearly has enough money to buy himself a seat a t the table randr Jan 2019 #3
Speaking as a Seattleite maxsolomon Jan 2019 #4
Good stuff. We need to shut down this vainglorious would-be "candidate" IMMEDIATELY. calimary Jan 2019 #7
He's welcome to run as a Democrat maxsolomon Jan 2019 #9
Thanks for the input. Hekate Jan 2019 #11
Yes, his Sonics Gaslighting was awful FrankBooth Jan 2019 #13
to me, this is exactly spot on. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #5
No billionaires in government. No matter their political affiliation Devil Child Jan 2019 #6
Baaaaaazing! oasis Jan 2019 #8
Exactly right. And Krugman gets extra points for referencing both klook Jan 2019 #10
Krugman is always spot on, afaiac Hekate Jan 2019 #12
:) This is "The Onion" take linked by Krugman: Hortensis Jan 2019 #14
I actually never heard of him until about 3 days ago. world wide wally Jan 2019 #15
He says republicans will vote for him marlakay Jan 2019 #16
Well, he's blaming AOC for his decision to run. Not that he's an egotistical asshole! TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #17
Kick dalton99a Jan 2019 #18

MagickMuffin

(15,958 posts)
2. "centrist on the right, only attacks Democrats"
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jan 2019

I wasn't impressed with his 60 minutes interview. He has no charism, no different than a republicon.

randr

(12,417 posts)
3. Schultz clearly has enough money to buy himself a seat a t the table
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jan 2019

He could gain plenty of political clout for a pittance of what it would cost to run a Presidential campaign.
When asked on 60 Minutes if he was prepared to spend the 2 to 3 hundred mill it might cost, the fact that this only represents a small fraction of his fortune went over the interviewers head.
He is obviously driven by ego and greed and does not have any particular political agenda worth our interest.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
4. Speaking as a Seattleite
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

He doesn't even have support in the city or region.

Too many grudges over the way he sold the Supersonics - he and the new owners gaslighted the city, lying that the team would stay here when it was transparently obvious that Bennett and McClendon wanted to take it to Oklahoma. Which they proceeded to do as soon as there was a convenient excuse.

I have friends that work at Starbucks corporate, and by all measures, its a great place to work. I have heard stories of Schultz coming down to scream at the design team, however.

Plus, he's wrong about the Democratic Party and Democrats in general. NONE of us think that there is a free lunch. We're not children.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
9. He's welcome to run as a Democrat
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jan 2019

You can make the argument, as a Centrist Dem, that marginal rates should never be 70% no matter what.

FrankBooth

(1,607 posts)
13. Yes, his Sonics Gaslighting was awful
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jan 2019

And everyone here sees right through him.

Basically Schultz tried to play the innocent "I didn't know they'd move the team when I sold it to the group from OKC."

Which is not only laughable, it's disqualifying -- if you are that stupid, then you shouldn't be anywhere near higher office. OKC's intentions to move the team were obvious to everyone. And Howard isn't that stupid -- he just thinks we are.

He's an a**hole.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,022 posts)
5. to me, this is exactly spot on.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

I have a socially liberal/fiscally conservative friend. He ties himself up in knots trying to explain why that is a good thing.

It comes down to this - he grew up wealthy, he loves his money and his stuff, and he simply wants more and more and does not want to part with any of it....which to me negates anything good that comes out of the socially liberal part.

I'd love to know what the DU centrists think about this - do they disagree with Krugman's reasoning?

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
6. No billionaires in government. No matter their political affiliation
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

They are beholden only to themselves and the interests of their respective empires. Schultz, Bloomberg, etc.. represent some of the worst in candidates to me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. :) This is "The Onion" take linked by Krugman:
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:54 PM
Jan 2019
SEATTLE—Expressing concerns that Democratic and Republican parties no longer represented people like him, former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz revealed Monday that he was considering an independent presidential run after finding no initial support among any American voter groups.

“The complete lack of support for my candidacy among narrow interest groups like liberals, conservatives, and moderates tells me that America is hungry for an independent voice,” said Schultz, after preliminary polling found little to no support for his presidential bid among Democrats, African-Americans, evangelicals, working-class whites, suburbanites, Republicans, millennials, Hispanics, men, or women.

“Our political system has been overrun by people with opinions and ideas. This country should not be beholden to someone who constantly fights for American values. Our nation clearly wants an independent voice who does not speak for any of them. I know that I can win by rising above partisan squabbles by bringing together a large coalition of nobody whatsoever.”

At press time, the announcement that Schultz was considering a presidential bid had received a highly positive reaction from Howard Schultz.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
15. I actually never heard of him until about 3 days ago.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:54 PM
Jan 2019

I also can't tell you the name of the CEO of Dunkin' Donuts for that matter.
Go fuck a mirror, Howard

marlakay

(11,498 posts)
16. He says republicans will vote for him
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

How many pro choice republicans are out there?

Maybe the young ones but will they vote?

He said on the view today he would hold employers responsible for doing more for employees, that will go over bad with businesses struggling. That was when they talked about healthcare. Its so expensive now its the number one thing that makes businesses struggle.

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