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maxrandb

(15,360 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:58 AM Jan 2019

You can't compromise or negotiate with fantasy

You can’t negotiate or compromise when one sides comes from a “position of fantasy”

In order to make good policy and govern…in fact in ANY relationship, the most important relationship to have is one with “reality and truth”.

Yet, over and over again, the MSM treats Retrumplican “Fantasy” as if it is gospel.

- “Tax-Cuts pay for themselves”
- “Trickle-Down economics”
- “Mexico will pay for the Wall”
- “We’ll be greeted as liberators”
- “Just go in and steal their oil”
- "Obama was born in Kenya"

Those are just a handful of examples of Retrumplican “fantasy” that the MSM presents to us as if they have ANY basis in “reality”.

From that position, Democrats are supposed to “negotiate and compromise”? Fuck that noise.

It’s insipid and dangerous.

During the run-up to the 2016 election, I was listening to NPR (NRP FOR GOD’s SAKE!!!), and they had a discussion about the two candidates plans for Iraq. One was a detailed, well-thought out plan based on the conditions on the ground, America’s stated goals and values, and international law. The other plan was a FUCKING WAR CRIME, and yet…here was NPR discussing the “merits” of both plans as if reality had suddenly ceased to exist or matter.

I was so pissed that I called into a radio show for the first time in my life. I pleaded with them to “please stop”! I asked them to “Please don’t pretend that both of these ideas are based in reality, just because the Retrumplicans nominated a complete moron to run for President.”

My complaint fell on deaf ears.

Now reality and fantasy are interchangeable. Racism and white supremacist are presented as just one side of a debate between “good people on both sides”.

We’ve watched the MSM make a fucking genius out of a POS Koch funded jackass Speaker of the House from Wisconsin whose political philosophy is based on adherence to a fucking sick science fiction novel. Could someone please provide me just one economic prediction that Paul Ryan was ever fucking right about? Yet, he’s treated as a savant, because reality doesn’t fucking matter.

We’ve watched so-called “serious” journalist question the birth and citizenship of our first black President.

We've seen a fucking lifeless Ken Doll straight out of a fucking Star Trek episode be tasked with bringing peace to the Middle East, respond to natural disasters, negotiate world trade policy, solve the Syrian issue and...I don't know...still be able to bring 300, or 1,000 cold fast-food hamberders to the White House for a National Championship celebration. Was Jarrod too busy to cure cancer, or what?

We’ve watched the MSM talk about a fucking 2,000 mile wall that Mexico is going to pay for as if it’s a real fucking thing.

The examples just go on and on. From RAY-GUN to Donnie Shit for Brains, we’ve required Democrats and the American people to compromise and negotiate with FANTASY.

So why not have a fucking unqualified orange shitstain as the leader of the free-world. It's fucking normal now, isn't it?

But, why just stop at this fucking fantasy president?

Maybe you can do some serious fucking journalism and try to find the Fish People of Atlantis. I saw them in Aquaman so I know they're real.

Hey, the orange asspickle bases his immigration policy on the fictional movie; ‘Sicario: Day of the Soldado’, with its taped up women, prayer rugs and souped-up cars, so why not Fish People?

Then we can move on to doing the real "gum-shoe" work of finding out why Achilles didn't just turn around and dip his fucking heels into the River Styx after Thetis ducked him in by his feet. There’s a story for you, and it has as much in common with reality as a 2,000 mile 30 foot concrete wall that Mexico is going to pay for. None of us were alive at the time. How do we know Achilles was just a myth?

Fuck, I just thought of something else for the media to dig into. There are 2,208 billionaires in the world...AND NOT ONE FUCKING BATMAN. Can you please report on this? “Both sides” of the BATMAN debate need to know why there is no BATMAN...or is there.

Or maybe....JUST FUCKING MAYBE!!!!...you could quit covering Retrumplican delusions as if they have any fucking basis in reality.

The country and my sanity would be in much better shape.

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You can't compromise or negotiate with fantasy (Original Post) maxrandb Jan 2019 OP
Thank you for saying it better than I could ever say it, gonna save this to share if you don't mind. Canoe52 Jan 2019 #1
governance through the sympathetic magic of ideology... Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #2
K & R Arkansas Granny Jan 2019 #3
No, the MSM most certainly does NOT "treats Retrumplican "Fantasy" as if it is gospel." Nitram Jan 2019 #4
But what you pointed out is not what is happening maxrandb Jan 2019 #6
Sounds like you read/watch the wrong MSM. Look around. You can do better. Nitram Jan 2019 #7
money Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #5

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. governance through the sympathetic magic of ideology...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jan 2019

it aligns with the conservative ideology.......it must work! even when it doesn't!

magical thinkers all

Nitram

(22,892 posts)
4. No, the MSM most certainly does NOT "treats Retrumplican "Fantasy" as if it is gospel."
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jan 2019

I don't know where you get this stuff. Two excellent counter-examples are the great job the MSM did telling the stories of individual Central American refugees to counter the administration line on who was in the "caravan", as well as the in-depth and personal stories on the hardships the shutdown was causing federal workers, which played an important role in Trump's total defeat. Fox News and the right wing media are not the MSM.

maxrandb

(15,360 posts)
6. But what you pointed out is not what is happening
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jan 2019

This, for example, is how today's MSM would cover a story about the earth being flat.

Some Retrumplican "expert" would say, or maybe Donnie Short Fingers would tweet that "the earth is flat"

Democrats would point out that the earth is in fact round.

Retrumplicans would then shut-down Government demanding that the "earth is flat".

After much suffering, the MSM would go to Democrats and say; "if you're not willing to at least consider that the earth is flat, or compromise that maybe it might not be round, aren't you just as at fault for the suffering"?

Then we'd have stories about how the Democrats unwillingness to "reach-out" is just as much responsible for the suffering.

Think I'm wrong, or exaggerating? Just substitute "a big beautiful wall that Mexico is going to pay for" instead of "the earth is flat".

Heck, you could even replace "the earth is flat" with "tax cuts pay for themselves" in the above scenario, and you'd get the same result.

That's the point I'm trying to make. Mexico paying for a big beautiful wall along the 2,200 mile border is as much a fantasy as the "earth being flat".

You can't negotiate or compromise with "fantasy" and yet the MSM requires Democrats to "negotiate or compromise" with "fantasy" every damn day.

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