Trust me, Seattle is FULL of “Fuck this guy.”

Oh, yes. FTG!

I'm a long time Warriors fan (even when they were crappy), but I always loved the Sonics.

But then there are lots of reasons to dislike Mr. Coffee

He also cut a private driveway to his house through a public park.

Never drink it.

are you kidding me?!?
That kind of crap REALLY grinds my gears.

And, if you’re wondering why he’s chosen to run, he says it’s because of AOC and her eeeeeevil proposal to tax the rich. Seriously.

because he might as well be a tea party republican.

...I worry that, by October 2020, every Starbucks in the country will have turned into a de facto campaign stop.

have money. Better to bleed Grandma's Social Security.

Hopefully they can tighten the old belt and live within those poverty level meager means!

...of their earnings, or 70% of all they've got, or whatever. I have a former neighbor who thinks like that. He operates a small blue collar business and inherited some apartments and the house he lives in. I know his wealth tops a couple million only because real estate in this region is insanely high in value. That's not his income, though. And $70 million might as well be on the moon.

But, taxes bad.

it....but if you lead with that, you will 100% lose TX (My POV = turn TX blue).

I know other countries have it - but I don't know how they came to have it. Is there a way to commit to it in some kind of incremental basis/phase in? Definitely think it will be harder to go from a capitalist/private for profit straight to universal. Just have never heard anyone discuss this. And, say you phase in a segment, then that will have an averse affect on the for-profit premiums since their pool will be smaller.

They have a consumption tax along with the income tax.
The US depends on almost all revenue from income taxes. And nearly 1/2 of us pay nothing in income taxes.

Yes, I beat the dead horse on consumption taxes. Because I see SO much income that doesnt get taxed. And even the fantasy of a 70% tax on income over 70 million or 10 million STILL wont raise enough to get us there.

We MUST do whats needed to at least stop people from going bankrupt just because they got sick.

what the genesis of universal care was in those countries who have it. Watching one of Michael Moore's documentaries about Scandinavia and what a great place that is - how they care for their less fortunate, and their sick, it made me wonder. What is it and what is it about a country where the majority care so much.

I am probably really jaded since I now live in deep red country, but I don't see the people around me ever, in a generation at least, caring about the masses, like it seems it is so innate elsewhere.

My point is, I think there must be a much more effective way to present an approach for universal healthcare than the big bang - "not-for-profit" care - for a country where many don't care about others and is used to for-profit systems.

I am not thinking about myself - I am 100% for it - just being pragmatic - how you sell it, how you phase it in - logistically.

...he has officially said that he was spurred to run by the threat of AOC and her tax plan.

of instant sycophants who want to reduce the weight of a billionaire's wallet.

He is afraid if a left leaning person gets in they will take away a bunch of his money in taxes.

Unfortunately I think out of selfishness he is going to go all the way so we are going to have to find the votes to beat a third party also.

it is going to be a pretty miserable experience for him, and who wants to put up with that for two years ...

America, it's worth it for money, "my money, my beautiful money."

"Egotistical billionaire asshole."
Of course he was escorted out.

As I see it, that call-out was a direct-hit. He's defined.

as him looking out for his own bank account and screw those who make minimum wage, then I agree.

...as saying that the most important thing to do for America today is to balance the budget and “reform entitlements.” In other words, Catfood Commission 2.0, here we come!

If you mean big C conservative, then yeah, he's a CONservative. But his cry against taxing the top marginal tax rate at 70% means he does not really give a shit about the national debt, just hording money into his bank account(s).

This move against him seems so anti-American, anti-democratic.

The sooner he is pushed out the better for all of us.

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Cha!

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gaining public approval.

Ain't happening so he might as well get lost now.

this nation is at stake. We cannot let ANY republican win in 2020, whether the nominee is that thing currently infesting the White House or some other horror show.

Nope. I'm with Barney Fife on this one.

second. If what you say is true, and I 100% agree, why wouldn't we
run someone that is the most likely to win? Why wouldn't we run someone
with the best chance of winning TX and Ga and AZ? The purplish places. And let the rest of the country (sans TN, AL, KY, WV, etc) fall in line? I live in red TX and sexism is rampant still (for this generation anyway). Not that a woman couldn't win, but it, IMHO, is unlikely.

Guess my point is, if the most important thing is to make sure Trump or
some other repuke dickhead doesn't win - why not go more center left? someone who we know is sympathetic to the cause and will sign progressive legislation? win-win

laziness. If he was truly serious, he would seek the Democratic nomination and not run a lazy, bullshit third party "campaign" which is usually just one long infomercial. Primaries are where you really get down in the trenches and slog out policy differences and candidates are forced to defend their positions and policies. It's where their character really comes through. He's decided to skip all of that, instead just spout whatever he wants without being challenged on anything. He'd been a major supporter of the Democratic arty for years. Why the change all of a sudden? I don't buy his "both sidesism". He wants the job without doing the work. Nope.

donated to Dems. Go figure.

But, still don't get the part about wanting to dump trump, above all other motives, and not thinking more on the lines of Dem moderate - to insure victory and hopefully flip a couple purples. This makes so much sense to me, from the core of my leftist being.

no one is asking.

about how Schultz running wasn't that big a deal and Nate Silver thinks it won't make a difference. Uh, yeah, maybe if everything were on the up and up with the election. But since we know Russia and the GOP will be joining forces to throw the election again, I don't think we can afford to take any chances.

Although he would seem to have zero appeal to progressives, I’m not sure how many people might be influenced if he decides to leverage his company’s power. I would expect that you’ll soon see copies of his new book at every Starbucks in the country. If we see stores filled with his attractively-presented messaging through the election season, he may be able to pull in just enough voters for another popular/electoral vote split, with a similar outcome.

the rules, not involve foreign powers, not suppress votes, not take advantage of gerry-mandering and fear-mongering. But we know they are going to do all those things. And if there's one thing the CEO of Starbucks knows about, it's marketing. Unlike 45, he actually knows how to build a brand and a business. I don't think that will make him a good president, especially since he thinks he doesn't have to pay his fair share in taxes, among other things. But it could make him a very attractive candidate to a Starbucks customer who isn't particularly political and buys into all the the "both sides need to get it together" bullshit that the media puts out.

I never bought much of his over priced coffee anyway

He knows Trump will do everything possible to not only protect his billions, but make sure the taxpayers will add to them. I wouldn't be surprised if more billionaires will try this stunt.

trying to convince us that only he knows best how to fix the clusterfuck that another out-of-touch (alleged) billionaire with no government experience has created. After all, the last vanity campaign went so well.



Give me a goddamned break.

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when there is so much at stake.

from all the crap that got us to this point.:story: