She's a comedian.

Did you know that for every hateful comment she's getting, she is donating $1.00 to Planned Parenthood of Ohio?

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you shall be flying in a dog cage in the cargo area.

Now eff off and die, Kasich.

why didn't they seat the pilot who was getting to his next duty assignment in couch?

why can't the pilot still be more important in coach and let the politician who originally booked a seat use his seat...

Im not defending kasich at all, im just wondering why an airline would bump a passenger to coach so an employee could have first class.

If he was an upgrade, then back to coach with him.

I want my pilot crisp, sharp, well rested, and without body aches caused from from sitting in those padded ironing boards they call seats in coach, upgraded version or not. And fed well.

That way they have more room and they can be well rested. I know I don't want to be flown by someone who's spent the last several hours crammed into coach getting more and more exhausted and cranky.

economy sucks. The airlines KNOW economy sucks. Yet they keep making it suckier to nickel and dime us.

But if we want a pilot who is flying to duty to be relaxed and comfortable, they realize that putting them in those SUCKY seats, especially cross country, is putting his upcoming flight at a disadvantage.

We want pilots to be relaxed, well rested and well fed. NONE of that can happen in the economy cabin. We all know it.

Upgrade options are often dependent on the seat not being used for other purposes. Aircrew on the job are always going to take priority over someone who isn't paying for the seat. If Kasich wanted to be guaranteed first class, he should have paid for it.

The airlines don't do this to those paying first class prices.

pilots flying to their next duty assignment are to be seated in first class in order to be able to get off the plane immediately to make tight connections.

authorities either dragging them off or waiting for them with handcuffs.

Is premium economy not good enough for airline employees?

Not defending Kasich, but it seems if a pilot or other airline crew needed to get on a flight they should take whatever seat is available.

I know a pilot that works for Delta. If they need to fly to an assignment and the flight is longer than 4 hours, they get at least Business Class.

Is premium economy not good enough for ex-governors?

Not defending the airline employees, but it seems if an ex-politician needed to get on a flight they should take whatever seat is available.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

If I pay for a seat in first class, even Alaska's crappy first class, that's where I expect to sit. Not premium economy or they had damn well better refund the FULL price of my ticket and give me the step-down seat for free.

Or at least that's what a lot of the replies to this thread imply.

I don't care who it is, its wrong. The pilot could have taken the open non booked seat, or sat in jump-seat. Alaska Airlines caused this crapfest.

two reasons:

If you pay for it - you get it (if he bought 1st class he deserves it).
Whatever happened to "employees serve" - at the expense of paying customers?

Probably more to be heard about this story.................

My wife flies Business Class to Europe if she needs to be rested for meetings when she arrives.

because he needed to be able to sleep for the 4-6 hour flight to his destination.

I'll remember this if you decide to run in 2020, and I'll make sure that everyone remembers this manner of treatment of your fellow passenger because you wanted first class. Such a big baby and also, a pathetic showing to those others on the ground and in the aircraft of just what kind of a person you really are.

Alaska Air and Ms. Klausner both deserve a big round of applause for their excellent manner of treating fellow human beings.

Sounds like something Larry David would do!

details. Especially "coachy".

giving him a ticket:



[link:https://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/02/ohio_gov_john_kasich_calls_pol.html|

Never liked the guy myself. I've always seen through his faux, folksy act that he puts on when he knows the cameras are on him, to see him as the big smarmy, know-it-all asshole he is.

He's much more like Trump than he would ever admit, and would be royally PISSED if anyone ever told him so.

He won twice because Ted Strickland treated him with kid gloves in 2010, and because the Dems found the lamest candidate possible to run against him in 2014.

Kasich would have been destroyed by someone like Sherrod Brown running against him.

Interesting what power does to a person.

Somehow even tragically losing his parents in a car accident years ago wasn't enough to humble him. If it did, he never shows it in public. Joe Biden he isn't.

shouldn't be politicians.

Of course they never do in front of the camera, but politicians that treat people like that, is very telling of how they feel about the public in general.

Always in hindsight.

not give him the right to steal another passenger's seat. His complaint would be with the airline. Had it been my seat he stole I would have spoken up.

Chances are that priority seating is part of the benefits package airline pilots get. If you've ever been stuck in an airport, waiting for your flight crew to arrive, you might appreciate the "perks" pilots get.

And don't forget: benefits were originally designed to save company cash reserves; thus, Lower salaries didn't seem so bad to workers.

I would have been like, "yeah, you're that douchebag governor who rejected federal funds for 3Cs rail in Ohio."

sounds like he thinks he is entitled more than average people. He thinks can be President some day, when hell freezes over, fuck him!

That guy is a creep, and hard as nails to boot.

Don't tell him that. He hates Trump. Lol

they should have gotten a volunteer -- offer enough money and someone will downgrade, or else don't overbook.

who tried to break up the public unions in Ohio.

I'd be pretty upset, especially on a coast-to-coast flight.

The other passenger shouldn't have been bumped either.

This sounds like the airline's fault. They didn't deliver what the customer paid for.

Or did he get upgraded because he’s a frequent flyer? I sometimes fly first class because I have status with Delta and get upgraded.

Paid first class is the #1 best revenue and profit for the airline.

When they start bumping FC passengers, they start with non-revenue passengers and work their way upwards, with full-fare FC being absolutely last.

FC is full of paid full-fare is a rare thing, but it happens. In those cases, about the only way someone would be bumped would be for an air marshal, and he will be on the plane first before any passengers, and the passenger that got bumped would be treated with a very healthy compensation before he got on the plane.

"Yes sir, you're the asshole who bumped me off the flight. I know exactly who you are."

The pilot "traveling to a duty assignment" is traveling for free and should travel in coach if first class is filled with paying customers. I would not have moved either.

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because he shouldn't have given up his first-class seat if it was not his intent to leave first class.

The pilot was traveling on airline business at no cost to the airline: if anyone had to be bumped to coach, it should been from business class.


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The rest are variations on failed xians.

you know, like some other passengers who made the news.

But if it had been me, I would have caused a shit storm just 'cause he's a fuckin' repuke! Now someone out there is saying "man, this guys an asshole"! My response: "yes, yes I am".

n/t

Good luck running again. Oh wait he's a republican.

If Kasich indeed paid for his 1st Class seat, then the airline really maybe should've done things differently WRT to the Pilot and the Comedienne.

If he did NOT, and the 1st Class seat was in some way a free upgrade from Premium, then Kasich was being a dick.

Although the fact is, the Comedienne apparently graciously accepted a later flight in order to not cause a fuss, and was not actually upset ... so that kinda suggests the Airline handled things pretty well.

Can we all stipulate to that? Facts/Reality are important, IMHO.

Because that's been well-established. He is a dick, indeed.

The question is, is he a bigger dick because of this instance?

1. Pilots heading to their next flight must fly first class - to ensure timely deboarding to arrive at their next flight in a timely manner
2. If there are no vacant 1st class seats, the person who paid least for their first class seat is bumped to coach
3. Apparentlym(since Kasich was reassinged to coach) he was the one on this flight who had paid the least.
4. Instead of going to his reassigned seat, Kasich merely plopped himself down in someone else's seat and refused to move.

I haven't found indepemdent confirmation of the rules - but they make sense, since the next plane cannot take off without a pilot - and there are some very tight timings regarding how long pilots can be on duty. A time-out on a pilot can have significant ripple effects.

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LET them deboard first regardless of where they sit -- including the cockpit if there's enough seating, or with the rest of the flight crew.

If those are the rules, Kasich should not have been allowed to take another first-class seat. But by the same token, it's stupid to bump your highest-paying customers.


rocktivity

He just plopped himself down there and refused to move. (His new assigned seats was in premium)

The practice may be stupid, but it isn't likely called into ay very often, since I don't think 1st class fills up that often.

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the airline should have had him RE-moved.

Suppose they hadn't "gotten lucky" that the owner of the seat he took agreed to take a later flight?


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Which is part of her spiel.

They had numerous airline employees on board to explain to Kasich that he had to move, and he was getting.rudrer, and more volatile,.so ultimately the owner volunteered to take a later flight to make life easier for everyone. (And also because she had no interest in being trapped in a flying tube with someone who was that angry about.being forced to sit outside of first class.

Why is the pilot’s itinerary more important than Kasich’s?

So he didn't pay for the first-class seat. It's also nearly certain that the person whose seat he took wasn't paying either, since she doesn't mention being offered a voucher for her trouble. I have been bumped from both first-class and from the desirable legroom exit row at the last minute; in the exit row case the person who ended up sitting next to my wife instead of me was a survivor of the Virginia Tech shooting, which had happened less than a week before.

So this is a basic dick move by Kasich, who broke the law by not complying with flight crew instructions. It's quite likely they would have given him an upgrade for the later flight if he asked but Ms Klausner took the hit so the Very Important Prick could get home on time and in comfort. I'm sure she considers it worthwhile since she can milk this story for its comedy gold potential for years.

Whether he paid for the seat or it was a free upgrade, it was his seat. You don't give someone something and then try to take it back because you want to give it to one of your people. I wouldn't move either.

The pilot was flying for free, let him go to the "premium" seat. This doesn't make sense to me.

How the hell did he think it was ok to take another passengers seat? That bugs me more than anything else. I don't know if I could have been as nice as the lady whose seat he took.

Neither Kasich nor Klausner should have to give up their seat because of an airline's greed.