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Should Prince Harry have abdicated after wearing a Nazi costume to a party? (Original Post) Doodley Feb 2019 OP
He wasn't king, there was nothing to abdicate from obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #1
He could have abdicated from princehood. Doodley Feb 2019 #2
No! atreides1 Feb 2019 #20
He should have gotten demoted to Baron Beakybird Feb 2019 #3
LOL Scurrilous Feb 2019 #4
Like John Baron ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #19
He gets treated differently because he is not a Democrat. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #5
Interesting. Do you think Democrats treat him differently too? Doodley Feb 2019 #8
Don't be ridiculous EffieBlack Feb 2019 #6
I gotta say that the reaches Basement Beat Feb 2019 #9
I just went heads with one of them in another thread. Iggo Feb 2019 #21
And I think we should try to remember more that, since there's no real Hortensis Feb 2019 #24
It is so discouraging mcar Feb 2019 #34
I know. But Prince Harry? Really? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #35
You answered it mcar Feb 2019 #37
Remember malaise Feb 2019 #39
I have no doubt they're here too mcar Feb 2019 #40
If Prince Harry was an elected official, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #7
Does being unelected make it okay? Doodley Feb 2019 #25
Never. It is never okay, even if one is a Nazi. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #29
Many royals and aristocrats were nazi sympathizers, not just Hortensis Feb 2019 #10
whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout doompatrol39 Feb 2019 #11
meaning? Doodley Feb 2019 #14
Meaning when the right gets caught doing something racist or reprehensible... doompatrol39 Feb 2019 #16
I created this thread because I was interested to see if those who Doodley Feb 2019 #26
Riiiiiiight..... doompatrol39 Feb 2019 #42
That was idiotic, was rightfully "fried" for it,but admittedly he's the one Royal I sort of like ... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #12
You know he's racist, EffieBlack Feb 2019 #38
How can someone so far from the throne abdicate? cwydro Feb 2019 #13
He was born with a silver spoon up his ass, and at any time he can walk away Doodley Feb 2019 #15
I have no idea how you're tying this into the Virginia mess. cwydro Feb 2019 #18
IMO it is one of those weird things about the British treestar Feb 2019 #17
How Stupid Srkdqltr Feb 2019 #22
Perfectly said... targetpractice Feb 2019 #27
He married a woman of color HipChick Feb 2019 #23
I am looking to see if the same standard is applied. You seem to Doodley Feb 2019 #30
No.. I am saying HipChick Feb 2019 #31
They are very similar situations. Nazi's were responsible for the deaths of six million jews and Doodley Feb 2019 #32
Oh please. Your engaging in deliberate baiting tactics and you know it tymorial Feb 2019 #36
Yes SweetieD Feb 2019 #28
It's up to the people of the UK to decide, not people on DU DonViejo Feb 2019 #33
He can't "abdicate"... regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #41
Nothing like a 'judge' admitting to having a bias existing from before the knowledge of a crime. marble falls Mar 2019 #43

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
20. No!
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:33 PM
Feb 2019

No matter what, Harry will always be a prince...but he could have removed himself from the line of succession!

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
6. Don't be ridiculous
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:14 PM
Feb 2019

I can't believe the foolish lengths people go to try to deflect blame away from Northam.

Wow.

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
9. I gotta say that the reaches
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:18 PM
Feb 2019

of fellow members here have been going through is quite disheartening and makes it even clearer that "your enemy is my enemy" doesn't mean that person is an ally.

Iggo

(47,565 posts)
21. I just went heads with one of them in another thread.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

I would say "unbelievable" if it wasn't all too tragically believable.

Still, I was surprised.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. And I think we should try to remember more that, since there's no real
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:37 PM
Feb 2019

difference between the antipathy of bigots to American POC and to Jews, indigenous peoples around the planet, whites, or any other group outside of the bigoted ones' tribe, rejecting bigotry against one is fighting for all. After all, scratch an antisemite of any color and you will find race-based antipathies toward others also.

If the Nazis left any POC alive and unenslaved (that was the plan) in Europe, it was only because they were stopped before they could finish the job. They planned the same for the "inferior," white but non-Aryan, "races" of eastern Europe and Eurasia. And today across Europe and America we're seeing a resurgence of their evil. We really need to be talking about that and recognizing it for the giant threat for all of us that it is, because it's just the same old malignancy POC have always had to fight growing bigger and stronger.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Many royals and aristocrats were nazi sympathizers, not just
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:19 PM
Feb 2019

playing around in costumes, but sympathizing and even actively collaborating with Hitler and his National Socialists. There are theories, with at least some evidence to support, that active treason was at least contemplated by the abdicated Duke of York. Apparently he was well known to regret his abdication but admired Hitler's style of rule and made it clear that he wouldn't want to share power with a parliament.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
16. Meaning when the right gets caught doing something racist or reprehensible...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:30 PM
Feb 2019

....they excuse it by saying "Well whatabout!!!" It's known as "whataboutism" and it's joked about and referenced on here quite a bit when it happens to Republican. And it's rampant on here today.

Doodley

(9,124 posts)
26. I created this thread because I was interested to see if those who
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:49 PM
Feb 2019

think Northan should resign (I do, by the way after his press conference) applied the same standard elsewhere.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
42. Riiiiiiight.....
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:01 AM
Feb 2019

Because yeah, that's relevant right now, here, when discussing a US politician in 2019.

The issue is Northam. The question is, where people stand on what he did.

Deflecting to anything else is 100% whataboutism and an attempt to excuse racism because he has a D after his name.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
12. That was idiotic, was rightfully "fried" for it,but admittedly he's the one Royal I sort of like ...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
38. You know he's racist,
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

So racist that he and his African American wife are about to give the Queen her first black great-grandchild.

But let's try to deflect attention from the governor of Virginia's racist past and bizarrely non-accountable present by talking about an English prince

Doodley

(9,124 posts)
15. He was born with a silver spoon up his ass, and at any time he can walk away
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:29 PM
Feb 2019

from all that privilege that was the result of brutal force, oppression, beheadings, vanity wars, slavery and the occupation of other nations.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. IMO it is one of those weird things about the British
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:31 PM
Feb 2019

They see humor in things we can't. I doubt he is really a Nazi sympathizer.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
27. Perfectly said...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:50 PM
Feb 2019

... I don't understand how some people fail to apply context to a situation. I guess that explains 34% of our population who can't think that way.

Doodley

(9,124 posts)
30. I am looking to see if the same standard is applied. You seem to
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:52 PM
Feb 2019

be saying, look at what he has done since, not at what he did then. Am I right in saying that?

Doodley

(9,124 posts)
32. They are very similar situations. Nazi's were responsible for the deaths of six million jews and
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:02 PM
Feb 2019

part of the seventy million who died in WW2. It isn't funny to dress as a Nazi to a party. The other symbolized oppression based on race. We have two very similar situations. Do those who say Northam should resign, also think Harry should have walked away from his life of privilege? I am looking to see if the same standards are applied.

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
43. Nothing like a 'judge' admitting to having a bias existing from before the knowledge of a crime.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 03:56 PM
Mar 2019

How do you feel about every motorcycle shop having WWII German army style helmets? Or re-en actors or motion pictures?

Who really believes Harry's a Nazi?


And please do not compare this to blackface.

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