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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:27 AM Feb 2019

Here are 9 things (some) Americans just don't understand -- compared to the rest of the world




Here are nine things Americans can learn from the rest of the world.
1. Universal Healthcare Is Great for Free Enterprise and Great for Small Businesses
2. Comprehensive Sex Education Decreases Sexual Problems
3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense
4. Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience
5. The Bible Was Not Written by Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers
6. Learning a Second or Third Language Is a Plus, Not a Character Flaw
7. Union Membership Benefits the Economy
8. Paid Maternity Leave Is the Norm in Most Developed Countries
9. Distrust of Oligarchy Is a Positive


[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/9-things-americans-just-dont-understand-compared-rest-world/|

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Here are 9 things (some) Americans just don't understand -- compared to the rest of the world (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2019 OP
Republicans don't understand. betsuni Feb 2019 #1
Oh, they understand mercuryblues Feb 2019 #3
Right on merc Bob Loblaw Feb 2019 #4
Allow me to be poetic on a Sunday morning... Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #22
+1 nice Kurt V. Feb 2019 #24
I love that quote Roy Bob Loblaw Feb 2019 #40
You can lead a 2naSalit Feb 2019 #53
They are well aware. Especially in regard to Unions and control of the airwaves. olegramps Feb 2019 #26
K&R Kurt V. Feb 2019 #2
Add in Decent Vacation/Holidays Tribalceltic Feb 2019 #5
The Right Wing Has Us Begging for Crumbs McKim Feb 2019 #6
Adequate mass transit helps drivers have less traffic. IronLionZion Feb 2019 #7
We could have them all without any change in taxes TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #9
Yeah but our military helps keep us safe from death IronLionZion Feb 2019 #10
It makes one wonder, watoos Feb 2019 #13
Yep. shanny Feb 2019 #28
They are defending the rich at the expense of the rest of us. scarytomcat Feb 2019 #42
It shows we are totally stuck in lunatica Feb 2019 #41
Yes, and Europe as well whathehell Feb 2019 #29
NO. we gotta go back to pre reagan era taxes. we have a debts. stuff to do. pansypoo53219 Feb 2019 #54
I think we need to do both TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #55
Ike understood the dangers, watoos Feb 2019 #12
10. Firearms control makes law abiding citizens safer. crazytown Feb 2019 #8
Actual separation of state from church is a great fundamental matter. BSdetect Feb 2019 #11
Lol...Given that the Church of England is representative of whathehell Feb 2019 #25
11. All major countries are interdependent, and must work together. lindysalsagal Feb 2019 #14
No, we understand that well, which is why we created the United Nations whathehell Feb 2019 #31
I respectfully disagree ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #46
:) Gimme a break? On DU, it's "Americans" don't understand? Hortensis Feb 2019 #15
Trump supporters are the real Americans, don't you know? IronLionZion Feb 2019 #16
Either that or we're all trumpsters. Maybe somehow both? Hortensis Feb 2019 #18
I think the "some" in the title shows that the OP isn't directed at those of us who do Autumn Feb 2019 #19
That helps, but then this: Hortensis Feb 2019 #34
I don't think that the claim that no one is principled enough to understand or Autumn Feb 2019 #36
Key word "understand" LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #43
That's the truth. Autumn Feb 2019 #17
The European Union is something Britons don't understand, whathehell Feb 2019 #20
Irish Times journalist Fontana O'Toole gave a speech about OnDoutside Feb 2019 #51
Sounds good. whathehell Feb 2019 #58
I don't know how Fintan became Fontana ! Anyway, here are a few. Not always a fan of his but he OnDoutside Feb 2019 #60
Great post... BlueJac Feb 2019 #21
Old news. whathehell Feb 2019 #30
Thanks for the post. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #23
I would like to add that in the worst parts of Southern America Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #27
K & R BadgerMom Feb 2019 #32
WEIRD. Igel Feb 2019 #33
Here is (one) American's comment on the nine things DFW Feb 2019 #35
Oh gawd..Not that misogynistic old Newsroom clip again. whathehell Feb 2019 #48
Well, maybe when it's no longer applicable, Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #50
Lol..It's not even currently "applicable" to more than one ever- whathehell Feb 2019 #59
Opinions are like assholes. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #62
K and R oasis Feb 2019 #57
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #37
K&R UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #38
And Yet, the US has a Major Political Party Wholly Dedicated to Turning our Country into... dlk Feb 2019 #39
I would place heavy emphasis on the (some) part onetexan Feb 2019 #44
YES.. whathehell Feb 2019 #47
If you read the article you will find that the author of the article is Autumn Feb 2019 #52
Number 4 is a little lame zentrum Feb 2019 #45
K&R ck4829 Feb 2019 #49
私は6番が好きです。 yuiyoshida Feb 2019 #56
K & R LAS14 Feb 2019 #61

Roy Rolling

(6,921 posts)
22. Allow me to be poetic on a Sunday morning...
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:53 AM
Feb 2019

You can awaken someone who is truly asleep
You cannot awaken someone who is pretending to be asleep

Or one more...

A person won't understand something if their salary depends on them misunderstanding

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
40. I love that quote Roy
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 02:27 PM
Feb 2019

I even have it saved on my phone...

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." 

-- Upton Sinclair

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
5. Add in Decent Vacation/Holidays
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:21 AM
Feb 2019

Last edited Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

we always seem to be way behind the rest of the world

McKim

(2,412 posts)
6. The Right Wing Has Us Begging for Crumbs
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:40 AM
Feb 2019

The right wing disinformation machine has us begging for crumbs instead of demanding the benefits that other countries have for their tax paying citizens. It is past time to step up and demand Civilization!

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
7. Adequate mass transit helps drivers have less traffic.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:47 AM
Feb 2019

America is all about large capital expenditures for defense, but not for things that directly impact our daily lives.

Much of those 9 things are related to short term thinking as opposed to long term investments. Americans often want immediate gratification and assume we'll probably die before seeing returns on big investments

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
9. We could have them all without any change in taxes
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:52 AM
Feb 2019

If we weren't spending double what China and Russia spend on their military COMBINED.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. It makes one wonder,
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:08 AM
Feb 2019

when we have a dozen or more aircraft carriers and the rest of the world has 3. Russia spent far less money to wage cyber warfare against us and install their puppet as our president.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
28. Yep.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

One must also wonder, if we can't have healthcare, can't educate our children without bankrupting them, can't build infrastructure, can't clean up our environment, can't lift up the poor--what are they defending?

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
42. They are defending the rich at the expense of the rest of us.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:46 PM
Feb 2019

it is simple
they need to be called out every day
progressives need to make them own it

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
41. It shows we are totally stuck in
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 02:51 PM
Feb 2019

the 1950s mindset of military might being superior. As it turns out cyberwarfare is making armies obsolete as the measurement of superiority.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
55. I think we need to do both
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:48 PM
Feb 2019

Our bloated military is a major threat to national economic security whether we raise taxes or not. To continue to support it at its current size while our infrastructure crumbles around our ears is just crazy.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. Ike understood the dangers,
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:04 AM
Feb 2019

of too much military spending. He said we have a choice, (paraphrasing) between baby buggies and bombs, between tanks and good roads, between bullets and food.

Republicans "talk" about balancing the budget because there is no way to balance the budget while we spend most of our money on the MIC. A Republican balanced budget in real talk means cutting our social programs for the poor. We can still have social programs for the rich; subsidies for soybean farmers, tax dollars to build stadiums and arenas. We always find a way to subsidize the rich, the FoxCon factory in Wisconsin is a perfect example. We would never have a single nuclear power plant if they weren't subsidized.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
25. Lol...Given that the Church of England is representative of
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:12 AM
Feb 2019

Britain's national religion, they have no "separation of church and state". That fact would make them rather inappropriate "mentors" on the subject.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. No, we understand that well, which is why we created the United Nations
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 12:08 PM
Feb 2019

and led the formation of NATO.

I'm starting to think that the major thing not understood by Americans on this thread, at least, is US History.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
46. I respectfully disagree
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:24 PM
Feb 2019

Americans understand that in the context of arms agreements and a military presence protecting "world order". Americans do NOT understand that in the context of a global economy.

Ask 100 Americans to give you a synopsis of the creation of the EU from its nascency immediately following WWII. In fact, I'm willing to bet that you would need to broaden that to 200 before you could get a satisfactory answer. Ask 100 Americans to explain the effects of Brexit on the British and European economies. It would have been highly elucidating to have asked 100 Americans about the tariffs prior to them taking place and compare their answers then to what they think today.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) Gimme a break? On DU, it's "Americans" don't understand?
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:23 AM
Feb 2019

Perhaps this self-trashing aspect wasn't what readers were intended to focus on (or maybe that's exactly what the creator intended?), but misinformation about just who are causing our problems is not conducive to solving them.

Nor is pushing the idea that well over half of all Americans do not understand all these things perfectly well and support them. We do.

Autumn

(45,114 posts)
19. I think the "some" in the title shows that the OP isn't directed at those of us who do
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

understand all these things perfectly well and support them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. That helps, but then this:
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:17 PM
Feb 2019

"Here are nine things Americans can learn from the rest of the world." America was once recognized as a world leader in social and progressive advances. Now we're supposed to be trailing the rest of the planet?

The tattered flag design is pretty, but it's tattered. How about the claim that "Americans" aren't principled enough to understand or address issues like these -- EVEN AS the Democrats we elect to federal and dozens of state legislatures are doing just that.

We'd all do much better if we questioned who's spreading these subversive things and why.

What is this? Why is this, for what purpose? Who?

Autumn

(45,114 posts)
36. I don't think that the claim that no one is principled enough to understand or
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:32 PM
Feb 2019

understand or address issues like these is false, in truth it's quite the opposite . The article is pointing out the far-right ideologues of Fox News and AM talk radio, the Republican party, conservatives, neocons the Tea Party, and white Protestant fundamentalism . None of those groups have any principles and have worked hard using propaganda making sure that those issues don't get addressed.

Did you read the whole article? I don't see the article as being subversive either. I see a lot of truth.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
43. Key word "understand"
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

I do not think even half of Americans actually do understand how these kinds of advancements are possible or would do for them, at least do not believe they are doable because they are told over and over that they are impossible. Or, if done, The USA will turn into the USSA. Not only Fox News and RW radio, but even the corporate owned MSM is decidedly disingenuous about issues like Medicare for All and in their network owners best interest.

If its only Bernie Sanders, maybe Elizabeth Warren and AOC, who are fighting for universal healthcare for instance, they are simply branded as far far left extremists by the MSM, and the idea is mocked into silence. Even our candidate for the Democrats last time said how single payer "just isn't going to happen". The defeatist attitude is the first thing that has to change. Then its more, many more politicians coming out in support. Convince enough folks to jump on the bandwagon. Its all about changing the conversation with numbers. Trumpism is working on normalizing racism, sexism, nepotism. We could at least try and normalize the basic principles like health care being a right, and not a privilege, and insurance of that, and people's lives, should not be decided by a profit margin and private shareholders.

It doesn't mean they cannot understand ever - how much they could have if they wanted. Its about fighting the big catapult of propaganda and disinformation by compromised corporate news networks and papers, Republicans (and some Democrats), whose bread is buttered by private health industry oligarchs who want things to stay exactly the same.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
51. Irish Times journalist Fontana O'Toole gave a speech about
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:23 PM
Feb 2019

Precisely this topic where he suggested that the English don't have a defined identity, unlike the Celts. I'll dig it up in the morning.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
60. I don't know how Fintan became Fontana ! Anyway, here are a few. Not always a fan of his but he
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:45 PM
Feb 2019

makes some really salient points



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Farmer-Rick

(10,192 posts)
27. I would like to add that in the worst parts of Southern America
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:19 AM
Feb 2019

they do not understand that:

Jesus was NOT an American

Nazis are from Germany

Betraying your country is NOT patriotic



DFW

(54,414 posts)
35. Here is (one) American's comment on the nine things
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

1. Universal Healthcare Is Great for Free Enterprise and Great for Small Business
Even countries that have made progress in that direction without enacting it (such as Germany, where I live) enjoy advantages for most citizens (far from all)

2. Comprehensive Sex Education Decreases Sexual Problems
That SHOULD be a big "DUH!" and indeed, it is in much of America.

3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense
Best expressed by this famous American scene:



4. Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience
And is almost non-existent anywhere. Rush hour auto traffic is choking whether in the big cities of the USA, or England, or France, or Spain, or Switzerland, or the Netherlands, or Belgium, or Japan, etc etc etc etc

5. The Bible Was Not Written by Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers
Or God, or any other single entity.

6. Learning a Second or Third Language Is a Plus, Not a Character Flaw
Not only a plus, but an advantage that affords a glimpse into other cultures no movie or vacation will ever bestow.

7. Union Membership Benefits the Economy
Another DUH

8. Paid Maternity Leave Is the Norm in Most Developed Countries
Another DUH

9. Distrust of Oligarchy Is a Positive
And ending with another DUH

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
48. Oh gawd..Not that misogynistic old Newsroom clip again.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 07:44 PM
Feb 2019

That must have run a hundred times here when it first emerged.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
50. Well, maybe when it's no longer applicable,
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:15 PM
Feb 2019

people will stop posting it.

I had forgotten about it.

Thank you, whathehell for refreshing my memory.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
59. Lol..It's not even currently "applicable" to more than one ever-
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 03:33 AM
Feb 2019

diminishing American demographic.

In addition, we're not the first, last, or only nation with a segment of its populace that over-idealizes their country.

P.S. You missed the misogyny aspect completely, didn't you?

dlk

(11,572 posts)
39. And Yet, the US has a Major Political Party Wholly Dedicated to Turning our Country into...
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 02:17 PM
Feb 2019

...a Russian-style oligarchy.

onetexan

(13,044 posts)
44. I would place heavy emphasis on the (some) part
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:00 PM
Feb 2019

As i believe 3/4 of Americans understand the need for these things mentioned. Its the 1/3 who don't. Sad but true.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
47. YES..
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 07:37 PM
Feb 2019

I really doubt anyone on this board needed a "primer" on any of the points mentioned
The Brits seem to be having a hard time understanding the very Union they're trying to extract themselves from -- Maybe the OP's time would be better spent with them.



Autumn

(45,114 posts)
52. If you read the article you will find that the author of the article is
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:37 PM
Feb 2019

pointing out the far-right ideologues of Fox News and AM talk radio, the Republican party, conservatives, neocons the Tea Party, and white Protestant fundamentalism. It's not directed at Democrats or Liberals.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
45. Number 4 is a little lame
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:07 PM
Feb 2019

...as stated.

4.Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience.
Actually it helps workers keep and find their jobs, get to and from child care, and addresses much of climate change.

It's a huge economic stimulus and improvement for the lives of the non-taxied.

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