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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere are 9 things (some) Americans just don't understand -- compared to the rest of the world
1. Universal Healthcare Is Great for Free Enterprise and Great for Small Businesses
2. Comprehensive Sex Education Decreases Sexual Problems
3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense
4. Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience
5. The Bible Was Not Written by Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers
6. Learning a Second or Third Language Is a Plus, Not a Character Flaw
7. Union Membership Benefits the Economy
8. Paid Maternity Leave Is the Norm in Most Developed Countries
9. Distrust of Oligarchy Is a Positive
[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/9-things-americans-just-dont-understand-compared-rest-world/|
I am thankful every day for the NHS...
betsuni
(25,554 posts)mercuryblues
(14,536 posts)They just don't want that.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)You beat me to it
Roy Rolling
(6,921 posts)You can awaken someone who is truly asleep
You cannot awaken someone who is pretending to be asleep
Or one more...
A person won't understand something if their salary depends on them misunderstanding
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)I even have it saved on my phone...
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."
-- Upton Sinclair
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)mind to knowledge but you can't make it think.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)
we always seem to be way behind the rest of the world
McKim
(2,412 posts)The right wing disinformation machine has us begging for crumbs instead of demanding the benefits that other countries have for their tax paying citizens. It is past time to step up and demand Civilization!
IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)America is all about large capital expenditures for defense, but not for things that directly impact our daily lives.
Much of those 9 things are related to short term thinking as opposed to long term investments. Americans often want immediate gratification and assume we'll probably die before seeing returns on big investments
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)If we weren't spending double what China and Russia spend on their military COMBINED.
IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)or causes it. One of those two.
watoos
(7,142 posts)when we have a dozen or more aircraft carriers and the rest of the world has 3. Russia spent far less money to wage cyber warfare against us and install their puppet as our president.
One must also wonder, if we can't have healthcare, can't educate our children without bankrupting them, can't build infrastructure, can't clean up our environment, can't lift up the poor--what are they defending?
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)it is simple
they need to be called out every day
progressives need to make them own it
lunatica
(53,410 posts)the 1950s mindset of military might being superior. As it turns out cyberwarfare is making armies obsolete as the measurement of superiority.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)through NATO, for which we bear about 75 % of the expense.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)Our bloated military is a major threat to national economic security whether we raise taxes or not. To continue to support it at its current size while our infrastructure crumbles around our ears is just crazy.
watoos
(7,142 posts)of too much military spending. He said we have a choice, (paraphrasing) between baby buggies and bombs, between tanks and good roads, between bullets and food.
Republicans "talk" about balancing the budget because there is no way to balance the budget while we spend most of our money on the MIC. A Republican balanced budget in real talk means cutting our social programs for the poor. We can still have social programs for the rich; subsidies for soybean farmers, tax dollars to build stadiums and arenas. We always find a way to subsidize the rich, the FoxCon factory in Wisconsin is a perfect example. We would never have a single nuclear power plant if they weren't subsidized.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Britain's national religion, they have no "separation of church and state". That fact would make them rather inappropriate "mentors" on the subject.
lindysalsagal
(20,695 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)and led the formation of NATO.
I'm starting to think that the major thing not understood by Americans on this thread, at least, is US History.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Americans understand that in the context of arms agreements and a military presence protecting "world order". Americans do NOT understand that in the context of a global economy.
Ask 100 Americans to give you a synopsis of the creation of the EU from its nascency immediately following WWII. In fact, I'm willing to bet that you would need to broaden that to 200 before you could get a satisfactory answer. Ask 100 Americans to explain the effects of Brexit on the British and European economies. It would have been highly elucidating to have asked 100 Americans about the tariffs prior to them taking place and compare their answers then to what they think today.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Perhaps this self-trashing aspect wasn't what readers were intended to focus on (or maybe that's exactly what the creator intended?), but misinformation about just who are causing our problems is not conducive to solving them.
Nor is pushing the idea that well over half of all Americans do not understand all these things perfectly well and support them. We do.
IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)Liberals are fake Americans
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Sophistry.
Autumn
(45,114 posts)understand all these things perfectly well and support them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"Here are nine things Americans can learn from the rest of the world." America was once recognized as a world leader in social and progressive advances. Now we're supposed to be trailing the rest of the planet?
The tattered flag design is pretty, but it's tattered. How about the claim that "Americans" aren't principled enough to understand or address issues like these -- EVEN AS the Democrats we elect to federal and dozens of state legislatures are doing just that.
We'd all do much better if we questioned who's spreading these subversive things and why.
What is this? Why is this, for what purpose? Who?
Autumn
(45,114 posts)understand or address issues like these is false, in truth it's quite the opposite . The article is pointing out the far-right ideologues of Fox News and AM talk radio, the Republican party, conservatives, neocons the Tea Party, and white Protestant fundamentalism . None of those groups have any principles and have worked hard using propaganda making sure that those issues don't get addressed.
Did you read the whole article? I don't see the article as being subversive either. I see a lot of truth.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)I do not think even half of Americans actually do understand how these kinds of advancements are possible or would do for them, at least do not believe they are doable because they are told over and over that they are impossible. Or, if done, The USA will turn into the USSA. Not only Fox News and RW radio, but even the corporate owned MSM is decidedly disingenuous about issues like Medicare for All and in their network owners best interest.
If its only Bernie Sanders, maybe Elizabeth Warren and AOC, who are fighting for universal healthcare for instance, they are simply branded as far far left extremists by the MSM, and the idea is mocked into silence. Even our candidate for the Democrats last time said how single payer "just isn't going to happen". The defeatist attitude is the first thing that has to change. Then its more, many more politicians coming out in support. Convince enough folks to jump on the bandwagon. Its all about changing the conversation with numbers. Trumpism is working on normalizing racism, sexism, nepotism. We could at least try and normalize the basic principles like health care being a right, and not a privilege, and insurance of that, and people's lives, should not be decided by a profit margin and private shareholders.
It doesn't mean they cannot understand ever - how much they could have if they wanted. Its about fighting the big catapult of propaganda and disinformation by compromised corporate news networks and papers, Republicans (and some Democrats), whose bread is buttered by private health industry oligarchs who want things to stay exactly the same.
Autumn
(45,114 posts)Rec.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)despite being a part of it, even while voting themselves out of it. :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/?utm_term=.ace17e2fea62
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Precisely this topic where he suggested that the English don't have a defined identity, unlike the Celts. I'll dig it up in the morning.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)makes some really salient points
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BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Fox News will have none of that nonsense!
whathehell
(29,067 posts)most here certainly do "understand" and have been discussing it for ages.
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)Ill be using this often for my lesser informed friends.
Farmer-Rick
(10,192 posts)they do not understand that:
Jesus was NOT an American
Nazis are from Germany
Betraying your country is NOT patriotic
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Bookmarked.
But most of the Earth isn't WEIRD.
DFW
(54,414 posts)1. Universal Healthcare Is Great for Free Enterprise and Great for Small Business
Even countries that have made progress in that direction without enacting it (such as Germany, where I live) enjoy advantages for most citizens (far from all)
2. Comprehensive Sex Education Decreases Sexual Problems
That SHOULD be a big "DUH!" and indeed, it is in much of America.
3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense
Best expressed by this famous American scene:
4. Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience
And is almost non-existent anywhere. Rush hour auto traffic is choking whether in the big cities of the USA, or England, or France, or Spain, or Switzerland, or the Netherlands, or Belgium, or Japan, etc etc etc etc
5. The Bible Was Not Written by Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers
Or God, or any other single entity.
6. Learning a Second or Third Language Is a Plus, Not a Character Flaw
Not only a plus, but an advantage that affords a glimpse into other cultures no movie or vacation will ever bestow.
7. Union Membership Benefits the Economy
Another DUH
8. Paid Maternity Leave Is the Norm in Most Developed Countries
Another DUH
9. Distrust of Oligarchy Is a Positive
And ending with another DUH
whathehell
(29,067 posts)That must have run a hundred times here when it first emerged.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)people will stop posting it.
I had forgotten about it.
Thank you, whathehell for refreshing my memory.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)diminishing American demographic.
In addition, we're not the first, last, or only nation with a segment of its populace that over-idealizes their country.
P.S. You missed the misogyny aspect completely, didn't you?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Everybody is entitled to have one.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)dlk
(11,572 posts)...a Russian-style oligarchy.
onetexan
(13,044 posts)As i believe 3/4 of Americans understand the need for these things mentioned. Its the 1/3 who don't. Sad but true.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I really doubt anyone on this board needed a "primer" on any of the points mentioned
The Brits seem to be having a hard time understanding the very Union they're trying to extract themselves from -- Maybe the OP's time would be better spent with them.
Autumn
(45,114 posts)pointing out the far-right ideologues of Fox News and AM talk radio, the Republican party, conservatives, neocons the Tea Party, and white Protestant fundamentalism. It's not directed at Democrats or Liberals.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...as stated.
4.Adequate Mass Transit Is a Huge Convenience.
Actually it helps workers keep and find their jobs, get to and from child care, and addresses much of climate change.
It's a huge economic stimulus and improvement for the lives of the non-taxied.
yuiyoshida
(41,833 posts)Watashi wa 6-ban ga sukidesu. (I like number six)