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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,516 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:56 PM Feb 2019

Why do I love Twitter sometimes? Because the son of this corporal saw this and sent his dad's obit.

David Fahrenthold Retweeted

Why do I love Twitter sometimes?

Because the son of this corporal saw this and sent his dad's obit. SGT David Warren died at the age of 90 in 2011, "Did the NYT Crossword in ink."


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David Warren, business leader and combat veteran, was 90



It's odd the photos that move you...this one, of troops preparing to land in North Africa as part of TORCH, sort of rends me. The baby-faced corporal staring directly into the camera...so much packed into that stare.



That’s my dad. Corporal David I. Wertzberger.



No way....



I kid you not. When the picture was published in Time Magazine about 10 years ago one of his childhood buddies called him and pointed it out.


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Why do I love Twitter sometimes? Because the son of this corporal saw this and sent his dad's obit. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 OP
It's a great story, but there's an untold element that could be fascinating... RHMerriman Feb 2019 #1
Maybe he liked the deal he got and figured why take a chance and mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 #2
True, which is the potentially interesting story... RHMerriman Feb 2019 #3
Maybe he earned his degrees after his service? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #4
Could be ... second reading of the obit, hard to tell: RHMerriman Feb 2019 #5
He may just have never been in the right place csziggy Feb 2019 #6

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
1. It's a great story, but there's an untold element that could be fascinating...
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 04:21 PM
Feb 2019

It's a great story, but there's an untold element that could be fascinating...

Reading the obituary, Mr. Warren had an engineering degree and apparently some graduate level education; he would have been on obvious candidate for OCS, if he hadn't served in the ROTC during college.

And yet he enlisted and although he rose to NCO, was never commissioned.

Did he chose to go into the service as an enlisted man? Did he consider OCS and yet chose not to do so? Be interesting to know more.

All due respect to Mr. Warren and his fellow veterans and his family.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,516 posts)
2. Maybe he liked the deal he got and figured why take a chance and
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 04:33 PM
Feb 2019

possibly end up in a worse position, which was a possibility with going to OCS. I'm not sure that you could end up in a worse position as an officer than you would be in landing in north Africa.

OTOH, maybe he wanted to see action, and being enlisted was the way to do it.

I couldn't say.

I noticed the engineering degree too.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
3. True, which is the potentially interesting story...
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 05:38 PM
Feb 2019

True, which is the potentially interesting story...

However, there is no position in which having a commission is ever going to be "worse" than being enlisted.

Ever.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
5. Could be ... second reading of the obit, hard to tell:
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:11 PM
Feb 2019

Could be ... second reading of the obit, hard to tell:

Born in Scranton, Pa., Mr. Warren earned his bachelor’s degree in engineering at St. Louis University and attended the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. During World War II, he served in combat in Africa, Sicily and Italy, earning the rank of sergeant and a presidential citation.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. He may just have never been in the right place
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:57 PM
Feb 2019

My Dad dropped out of Michigan School of Mining (now Mich. Tech) and enlisted in the Navy, He'd been in NROTC and was just a seaman for the first year of his service where he was a draftsman in Washington DC. His commanding officer got him into officer's training school at Columbia University even though he technically was not qualified (he had too many college credits if I remember his stories correctly).

After his completion he was sent to submarine school in Key West then served two tours in the Pacific on the USS Spot out of Peal Harbor, receiving the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for actions during his first tour. He ended the war on the new sub, the USS Menhadin, which never saw combat - but that is how he met Mom.

ETA - After both Mom & Dad were mustered out, they married and he returned to Michigan to complete his degree.

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