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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,071 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 05:42 PM Feb 2019

What Will It Take for Mike Pence to Respect LGBTQ Americans?

Early Tuesday morning, Empire actor Jussie Smollett alleged he was attacked by two men while walking to an apartment in Chicago. Smollett, who is black, said that one of the attackers put a noose around his neck and poured an unidentified substance on him. According to the police, the two attackers were also “yelling out racial and homophobic slurs,” at Smollett, who is gay. Smollett also told the police that the attackers yelled, “MAGA country.”

“Let me start by saying that I’m OK,” Smollett said in a statement released by his publicist on Friday. “My body is strong but my soul is stronger. More importantly, I want to say thank you. The outpouring of love and support from my village has meant more than I will ever be able to truly put into words.”

It’s hardly surprising that the homophobic attack appears to have been perpetrated by supporters of the Trump administration. Vice President Mike Pence is explicitly anti-LGBTQ, and has been for a long time. Last month, it was revealed that his wife Karen had taken a teaching job at a school that prohibits LGBTQ students and faculty. Pence used his Christianity to justify his right to discriminate. “The criticism of Christian education in America should stop,” he said, adding that “major news organizations attacking Christian education is deeply offensive to us.”

The attack on Smollett is one of countless reminders that Pence is not just some bigoted old white guy leafing through the Bible for passages that will rationalize his hatred; he’s the vice president of the United States, and the Trump administration’s tacit endorsement of discrimination against the LGBTQ community only emboldens people to express their hate in public, including with violence. On Thursday night, the actress Ellen Page, who is gay, appeared on the Late Show With Stephen Colbert to tee off on Trump and Pence, essentially blaming the latter for the attack on Smollett:

“It feels impossible not to feel this way now with the president and Vice President Mike Pence, who wishes I couldn’t be married. Let’s just be clear. The vice president of America wishes I didn’t have the love I have with my wife. He wanted to ban that in Indiana. He believes in conversion therapy. He has hurt LGBTQ people so badly as the governor of Indiana, and I think what we need to know and I hope my show Gaycation did this in terms of connecting the dots to Jussie Smollett, I don’t know him personally, I send all my love. Connect the dots. This is what happens. If you are in a position of power and you hate people and you want to cause suffering to them, you go through the trouble, you spend your career trying to cause suffering, what do you think is going to happen? Kids are going to be abused and they’re going to kill themselves, and people are going to be beaten on the street.”


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/what-will-it-take-for-mike-pence-to-respect-lgbtq-americans-788247/

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What Will It Take for Mike Pence to Respect LGBTQ Americans? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 OP
Shock therapy lame54 Feb 2019 #1
When people become enlightened and reject hate as a religious philosophy. walkingman Feb 2019 #2
What Would It Take? peggysue2 Feb 2019 #3
What would it take? Maybe one of his children. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #4
Portman of Ohio, 2013, from Columbus Dispatch, It did for him. irisblue Feb 2019 #12
A Lobotomy n/t rustysgurl Feb 2019 #5
An incarnation to a more human specimen randr Feb 2019 #6
Maybe a 10 to 20 year stretch in prison would help Mike nt Jarqui Feb 2019 #7
an enternity burning in hell for acting as a false prophet teaching hate in God's name Takket Feb 2019 #8
When he's turned away at The Pearly Gates? BamaRefugee Feb 2019 #9
If Trump took a strong stand on anything - regardless of Mike's beliefs/disrespect - he'd jump on salin Feb 2019 #10
He never will. irisblue Feb 2019 #11
What do I think about Mike Pense caring about anyone who's not a rich, white, Christian male? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #13
reincarnation. spanone Feb 2019 #14
Beat me to it! 2naSalit Feb 2019 #18
Nothing less than God smacking him aside the head or a lightning bolt to the head. GemDigger Feb 2019 #15
The Second Coming shanny Feb 2019 #16
Could Be Anything colsohlibgal Feb 2019 #17
An exorcism? Initech Feb 2019 #19

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
3. What Would It Take?
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 05:51 PM
Feb 2019

One of his kids being gay. Even Cheney and Portman shifted when one of their children 'came out.' Sadly, the only way certain people feel anything is when it affects their own blood.

DinahMoeHum

(21,797 posts)
4. What would it take? Maybe one of his children. . .
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 05:51 PM
Feb 2019

. . .or nieces/nephews to declare themselves LGBTQ.

GOoPers like Pence don't give a shit until it hits them personally.

irisblue

(32,996 posts)
12. Portman of Ohio, 2013, from Columbus Dispatch, It did for him.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:16 PM
Feb 2019

Rob Portman commentary: Gay couples also deserve chance to get married
Posted Mar 15, 2013 at 12:01 AM
Updated Mar 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM

snip--"That isn't how I've always felt. As a congressman, and more recently as a senator, I opposed marriage for same-sex couples. Then something happened that led me to think through my position in a much deeper way."
More at article.

salin

(48,955 posts)
10. If Trump took a strong stand on anything - regardless of Mike's beliefs/disrespect - he'd jump on
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 06:10 PM
Feb 2019

bandwagon faster than the winner of the Indy 500.

But, given that's not likely from Trump - I don't see Pence dropping his hateful bigotry and penchant to legislate based on that hateful bigotry.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
15. Nothing less than God smacking him aside the head or a lightning bolt to the head.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 07:50 PM
Feb 2019

Other than that, there is NO hope for that man to have scintilla of compassion for his fellow man.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
17. Could Be Anything
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

Part of me wonders about people so vehemently opposed to gay folks....self hate? You never know

Again......live and let live, do unto others as you would have them do unto you....a good credo to live life by but repressed Religious fanatics like Pence want to judge others who don’t live like he wants you to live.

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