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sir pball

(4,743 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:09 PM Feb 2019

I don't like Tom Brady.

He's a smarmy, entitled, self-aggrandizing piece of shit. He's cheated in more ways than one. He is not somebody I would associate with.

As an NFL quarterback, though, he is absolutely the best to ever play the game.

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I don't like Tom Brady. (Original Post) sir pball Feb 2019 OP
deal with it juxtaposed Feb 2019 #1
Sorry, but I grew up in the era of Roger Staubach ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #2
Me too; but as a previous reply states "deal with it." Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #35
I'm not going to deal with the claim that Brady is the best ever QB ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #63
He probably thinks you're ok, though. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2019 #3
I've been a Pats fan since 1968. Many lean years. This is sweet. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #4
What do you do with the Pats fan you have?? k8conant Feb 2019 #8
Ha! Fixed! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #11
And when Brady and Belichick they'll be garbage again maryellen99 Feb 2019 #16
Wow. I am enjoying the bitters in this thread! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #32
Not as long, but since the early 90s.. sir pball Feb 2019 #39
Cheater RainCaster Feb 2019 #5
I think anyone that supports Trump is a scumbag. walkingman Feb 2019 #6
The only reason I tolerate Brady is because he distanced himself from Chump. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #10
Only because his wife hates trump and wears the pants in that marriage nt maryellen99 Feb 2019 #18
As long as he shuns that clown I don't care why. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #25
+1000s DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #45
Any links on this distancing from Trump? philly_bob Feb 2019 #64
Here DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #68
Thanks, DSB. In my family... philly_bob Feb 2019 #69
The thing is truth and honesty rockfordfile Feb 2019 #48
I agree with you. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #7
Brady thinks he's pretty damn terrific. Just ask him. Irishxs Feb 2019 #9
He's won six Superbowls. sir pball Feb 2019 #12
If the rules were like they are now back in the past, Then other QBs would have won even more. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #21
Boston here. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #51
As a football player he is spot on NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #13
Deflategate tells me a lot about the Patriots walkingman Feb 2019 #17
You should read up on what happens to gas inflated objects in cold weather. Blue_true Feb 2019 #52
He is..until someone beats him....even then - he is the Goat!!! n/t asiliveandbreathe Feb 2019 #14
Yep. Blue_true Feb 2019 #53
Forgive my ignorance, but what is this "Goat" thing I smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #59
GOAT - Greatest Of All Time. nt edbermac Feb 2019 #60
Thank you! smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #62
I said this in another post. Nope rockfordfile Feb 2019 #15
Those Monster NFC East teams of the late 80's-early 90's would've eaten him alive nt maryellen99 Feb 2019 #20
Yup pangaia Feb 2019 #30
As it is, the NFC East is STILL the kryptonite. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #47
Sweet...for me the MVP, this SB, is the Pats Defense...... the cheers in the stadium asiliveandbreathe Feb 2019 #19
MVP is Edelman sir pball Feb 2019 #23
I agree - but the D was who kept the Rams in check....great game...enjoy the win!!!! n/t asiliveandbreathe Feb 2019 #28
It's my 2nd favorite Pats SB.. sir pball Feb 2019 #40
Isn't that the SB where a Patriots receiver let a ball fly right through his hands. Blue_true Feb 2019 #54
Brady is a great quarterback, but not the best ever Poiuyt Feb 2019 #22
+1 dalton99a Feb 2019 #24
Right, like Montana was some improvising gunslinger. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2019 #42
Exactly, Montana's system was the West Coast Offense that Bill Walsh conjured up. Blue_true Feb 2019 #55
Only the Patriots try to bend rules to their advantage elias7 Feb 2019 #43
Uh Montana won 4 with SF and took the chiefs to the 1993 AFC title game maryellen99 Feb 2019 #50
Didn't lose any SBs either. DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #70
Yes!! Nt maryellen99 Feb 2019 #71
I actually find his style of play rather boring. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #26
Again, he's not entertaining , nor likeable sir pball Feb 2019 #31
his time is over demtenjeep Feb 2019 #27
He's no Aaron Rodgers. milestogo Feb 2019 #29
Aaron Rodgers he certainly is not...nor Staubach, nor Marino, Montana..the list goes on and on. pangaia Feb 2019 #33
Make this the sour grapes post that never dies! Classic! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #34
Sour grapes? I'm a Pats fan! sir pball Feb 2019 #36
I know...but the thread is liberally sprinkled with the bitter fruit! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #37
Shit, he won the lowest scoring game ever. sir pball Feb 2019 #38
And....of the 6, this was biggest margin of victory NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #41
Yep. sir pball Feb 2019 #46
I had to laugh when the Rams missed the last field goal NutmegYankee Feb 2019 #56
Yeah, I read it mostly for entertainment. Blue_true Feb 2019 #58
how can he be the best sdfernando Feb 2019 #44
I don't like cheaters who support racists. Coventina Feb 2019 #49
If the quarterbacks of today got hit like some in the past... nini Feb 2019 #57
"I don't like Tom Brady, but...." All over the country, we're saying that. :) dawg day Feb 2019 #61
The cheating claim is old Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #65
Who? whistler162 Feb 2019 #66
Football players... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #67
Who? Adrahil Feb 2019 #72

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
35. Me too; but as a previous reply states "deal with it."
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:38 PM
Feb 2019

and as for online shit about Super Bowl ads, which condemns endorsing unity and racial tolerance, featuring Martin Luther King Jr. speeches; DEAL WITH THIS!



Don't let ANYBODY MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE NOBODY!"

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
63. I'm not going to deal with the claim that Brady is the best ever QB
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 02:06 AM
Feb 2019

There were/are plenty of awesome QBs who could whoop Brady's deplorable ass.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
16. And when Brady and Belichick they'll be garbage again
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:20 PM
Feb 2019

Sorry but Belichick and Kraft are Trump traitors period. They and his supporters sold this country out.

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
39. Not as long, but since the early 90s..
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:46 PM
Feb 2019

I remember when we made it to the Bowl in 1997, I joked it would be my graduation present (I graduated in '97)

On the other hand, thank god for that 199th draft pick huh??

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
69. Thanks, DSB. In my family...
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 10:49 AM
Feb 2019

the fault line between Trumpers and anti-Trumpers has been submerged at big family dinners by mutual agreement -- but the exact same fault line, with the same members, came up fiercely on Brady.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
48. The thing is truth and honesty
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:07 AM
Feb 2019

About the owner and coach of the team. What we all know what trump is, and what the owner of the football said about Trump. Then you have a coach that wrote that letter for trump in 2016. Remember?

I think trump being one of the most racist and treasonous persons we have had in the White House and in our country's history says a lot about the people who support him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. I agree with you.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:16 PM
Feb 2019

Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. I am not a sports fan, but I live in Boston and I never hear the end of Brady worship around here.

I guess he is a great quarterback, but I have no admiration for sports heroes. It's just not something that impresses me.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
21. If the rules were like they are now back in the past, Then other QBs would have won even more.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:23 PM
Feb 2019

I have no doubt Joe Montana or a Troy Aikman would have won more. Got to remember they did pretty good with the way it was.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
51. Boston here.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:29 AM
Feb 2019

Not a sports fan. Yet I like when our team wins.

Fact is the team won the superbowls and not Brady on his own.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. You should read up on what happens to gas inflated objects in cold weather.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:46 AM
Feb 2019

The NFL ran checks at several cold weather game the season after fining Brady, the NFL destroyed the data without reporting one bit of it. I am pretty sure that I know what the data showed. Also, why do you think the NFL now keep game balls in temperature controlled trunks during games?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. Yep.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:49 AM
Feb 2019

Someone is going to have to be cold blooded enough that when Brady leads a touchdown drive, the opposing QB comes right back and lead his own TD drive, like Foles did last year and Eli Manning did in 2007-2008.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
15. I said this in another post. Nope
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:20 PM
Feb 2019

There are QBs in the 90s, 80s, and 70s that I would take over Tom Brady with these rules today. He's a good QB, but he's also a right-wing racist pos. Again the rules are slanted big time against defenses.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
19. Sweet...for me the MVP, this SB, is the Pats Defense...... the cheers in the stadium
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:23 PM
Feb 2019

sound like the cheers at Gillette Stadium.....very nice....

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
40. It's my 2nd favorite Pats SB..
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:49 PM
Feb 2019

After 2012. We lost that one but it was an amazing game. Better than tonight even.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
54. Isn't that the SB where a Patriots receiver let a ball fly right through his hands.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:54 AM
Feb 2019

If he had caught it, he would have walked in for a touchdown that would have won the game?

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
22. Brady is a great quarterback, but not the best ever
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:23 PM
Feb 2019

You young whippersnappers don't remember Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Marino, Montana, etc.

What Brady has is the best system around him. At least I assume so. The Patriots have been caught cheating in several different ways throughout the Belicheck era. We don't know how many times they've cheated and not got caught.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
42. Right, like Montana was some improvising gunslinger.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:52 PM
Feb 2019

No one was more a product of his system than Montana. He just ran it to perfection. So does Brady. Trying to diminish him by citing “the system” is ridiculous.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
55. Exactly, Montana's system was the West Coast Offense that Bill Walsh conjured up.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:57 AM
Feb 2019

It involved short to intermediate passes and using backs as receivers. Brady runs a modified West Coast Offense, using slightly longer distance passes, but still having backs as pass catchers.

elias7

(4,007 posts)
43. Only the Patriots try to bend rules to their advantage
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:56 PM
Feb 2019

Perhaps if Staubach or Marino or Montana had a better system around them, they would have won 6 Super Bowls

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
50. Uh Montana won 4 with SF and took the chiefs to the 1993 AFC title game
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:13 AM
Feb 2019

He most likely would’ve won 5 if he hadn’t taken that devastating hit in the 1990 NFC title game.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
26. I actually find his style of play rather boring.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:24 PM
Feb 2019

Extremely, extremely effective, mind you, but boring.

There have been a lot of quarterbacks who are a lot more exciting than Brady in terms of style.

Brady is full of 15 yard slants to Gronk and Edelman.

He just happens to be extremely good at that sort of thing.

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
31. Again, he's not entertaining , nor likeable
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:31 PM
Feb 2019

But those slants to Edelman and Gronk (6'6", 268#, runs a 4.48) aren't as easy as you say.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
29. He's no Aaron Rodgers.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:28 PM
Feb 2019

Brady is lucky to belong to a well coached team. Without the team (and its highly effective cheating) he's nothing special.

And I agree that "He's a smarmy, entitled, self-aggrandizing piece of shit. He's cheated in more ways than one."

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
36. Sour grapes? I'm a Pats fan!
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019

I just threw out a firebomb for fun.

It was the lowest-scoring Superbowl in history btw.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
37. I know...but the thread is liberally sprinkled with the bitter fruit!
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:42 PM
Feb 2019


I am delighted...listening to WBZ game wrap on my Echo

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
38. Shit, he won the lowest scoring game ever.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:43 PM
Feb 2019

13-3, that was a battle of the defenses with a few good shots to make a touchdown run.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
56. I had to laugh when the Rams missed the last field goal
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:57 AM
Feb 2019

I realize it was a lost cause, but damn, it's still the Superbowl!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
58. Yeah, I read it mostly for entertainment.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 01:01 AM
Feb 2019

Some of the posts remind me of an image of two old men sitting on the porch of the country general store talking about how much tougher people were back a few years.

nini

(16,672 posts)
57. If the quarterbacks of today got hit like some in the past...
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 12:59 AM
Feb 2019

I don't think that claim could be made.

Even then so many factors play into that, quality of teammates etc. I hate it when any sport claims one player is the best ever. It's just not realistic to do so. Top five might make more sense.


And fuck that fascist anyway

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
61. "I don't like Tom Brady, but...." All over the country, we're saying that. :)
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 01:58 AM
Feb 2019

Yes. Best ever.

And I'm a Peyton and Drew Brees fan. But really, can't argue with all those rings.And at his age! He should be mowing the lawn and buying lottery tickets!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
65. The cheating claim is old
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:45 AM
Feb 2019

No doubt there was legitimacy to some of it but this team is so remarkably smart and resourceful there is not a valid comparison to another team in any sport.

Montana and Brady are the two best I have ever seen. Montana was the superior athlete and played in a more difficult era, particularly given the awesome physical teams in the NFC during that time frame. But Brady is a more dedicated athlete who has maximized every facet of his game. His mechanics are near flawless. I have seen that broken down in several slow motion video examinations.

I enjoyed the interaction with his daughter tonight. There was such joy on her face while touching the Vince Lombardi Trophy. She'll savor that even more decades from now once she understands the historical significance.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
67. Football players...
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 07:16 AM
Feb 2019

… especially quarterbacks, are practically worshiped in some schools - both college and high school. I think it contributes to their personalities - and it's evident in Brady. I think sports are great and contribute to overall learning... I wish more students had a wider range of sports to join. We celebrate many activities in school, but it seems like the kings and queens are always the football player and the cheerleader... The football player and the cheerleader are the gold standard... they are great activities, but not the only ones...

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