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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA step-by-step guide to what happens if Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam steps down
Please note the same group who published the picture of Northam has publish the story about the Fairfax accusation of sexual assault-Big League Politics
"Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax would be elevated to governor. He would become the second black governor in the states history. (Should Fairfax for some reason not be able to serve, Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring is next in line. Fairfax has notably been forced in the past 24 hours to issue a statement rebutting sexual assault rumors.)
There would not be a special election to replace Northam. Fairfax would serve the rest of the governors current term, through 2021.
A special election to replace Fairfax as lieutenant governor could be called, though it is not guaranteed. Fairfax may appoint his own replacement, Sabato said, but the state legislature could mandate that a special lieutenant governor election be held in November, when many of the state legislative seats are on the ballot."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/4/18210493/ralph-northam-resign-yearbook-kkk-blackface-justin-fairfax
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Get rid of Fairfax . . .
Vacant governor and lt. govenor positions. Republican controls I think both houses.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Democrats are expected to take the legislature alone doesn't hurt their evil cause.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Means that the GOP gets a do-over for both Lt Governor AND the AG for 2018 elections... the AG being the first line of defense against the Trump administration.
I await some story on AG Mark Herring to drop at this point, or just after he's sworn in.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)reverse the 2018 election.
It's a lose-lose for Dems.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)If Northam resigns, a Democrat becomes governor. if he can't serve - an unlikely scenario - the Democratic AG becomes governor.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)a lose lose.
By taking out the Democratic Governor, Lt Governor, and AG, the GOP is in line to replace the Lt Gov and the AG one year into their terms.
I have to wonder if some story is waiting to drop on Herring once he's sworn in.
Yes, if Northam doesn't resign, that would indeed alienate the base, which is the lose if he stays - if he resigns, then the shuffle at the top begins, leaving the Lt gov and AG spots open with a GOP led legislature, which will do whatever they can to prevent a Democratic Governor from appointing anyone.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)is any likelihood that that will happen.
If you want to speculate like that, you could say that could happen in any state in the country.
We could make the same argument about Trump - that we shouldn't push for impeachment or resignation because Pence will succeed him and the Republicans could then do something to get Pelosi out of the line of succession, putting Grassley next in line, followed by Pompeo and Mnuchin and the rest of Trump's cabinet.
I'm going to stay focused on what's actually happening and what's likely to happen, not what COULD happen in our wildest imaginations.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)They want to take out Northam and Fairfax at once for the same reason that we want to take out Trump and Pence at once now. We have control of the House. If Nancy takes the Oval Office, the House will confirm any VP that she chooses.
The GOP controls the VA legislature. The VA legislature has the power to refuse to let Herring appoint a lt Governor, and AG, because they are all chosen by separate elections, and not appointed by the Governor.
The GOP gets another chance in a special election to get a GOP lt Governor, and a GOP AG.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)can do this.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)My cousin says support for Northam is strong. She lives in Richmond. we shall see.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)The attorney general serves as Governor or Acting Governor for the remainder of the Governor's unexpired term.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)that will do everything legal and not legal to prevent him from appointing Democratic replacements.
They interferred with the 2018 house elections, and they will do it again with any special elections.
Again - I think Northam should resign, despite the trap that has been laid by Brietbart. I'm just saying that it helps the GOP to get Northam out of office.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)can't keep this up. It will destroy us in the end. It is 35 years ago. Meanwhile Steve King a KKK type is still in office.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)year which they can do...and then go after Fairfax if he is the governor. The only way to stop this is for Northam to refuse to resign. What have the Republicans to lose? They create chaos at a time when the legislature is up for grabs and take a shot at the governorships or at the least discrediting Democrats. Both the Northam pic and the Fairfax attack come from the same source...Big House Publishing. This is a hit job...which doesn't make me happy with Northam, but a resignation plays into the right wing rat fuckers hands.
peggysue2
(10,831 posts)to emerge. And, all the while, we're taking our eyes off the Trumpster and his legal/moral woes. Tomorrow night's STOU address will be gleefully listened to by Trumpy's cult convinced that Democratic Party members are embroiled in a self-inflicted civil war.
Strange how these things work out. Timing and all that.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Just remember, if you are not a 110% certified saint, don't bother to throw your hat in the ring.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)him...the attack on Fairfax by the same Big house Publishing shows that this is a hit job...no one resigns...we tell the fucking Republicans to pound sand and go after them.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)a Virginia special election to replace a Governor AND Lt. Governor. GOP mission accomplished.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)It will be a shit show. But if we can make it plain that the Dems stick together and fight the GOP saboteurs, we can beat them.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The VA Democratic party and the VA Black Caucus has made it clear why he should resign, and the consequences if he doesn't. Northam will not be able to effectively lead without the support of VA Democrats - and that would indeed be a shit show.
I hate that the GOP set this trap, and I hate that it appears to be going their way.
bluestarone
(16,975 posts)Hard pill to swallow! There is just TOO much at stake at this time. I'm sure of what the RETHUGS want! 2020 run someone else if we need to! WE cannot let the RETHUGS take this from us!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)The point is the only way the GOP lose is if Northam stays in office...and we still have issues but that is the only way to stop these sort of attacks.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)he will be able to govern just fine.The barely GOP legislature knows that the policies that Northam (Democratic) advances are popular so I doubt they will really go against public opinion in an election year.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)map too which give us great opportunity.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He said Saturday that he put just a little bit of shoe polish on his cheeks to impersonate Michael Jackson. But Friday, he saw a picture of himself in full blackface STANDING NEXT TO A KLANSMAN and thought it was a picture taken when he was impersonating Michael Jackson?
Did he think he remembered participating in a Michael Jackson/Ku Klux Klan Tribute?
You really should stop - you've run out of runway here.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)I still say don't let the GOP win this...it is ratfuckery. It is a 35 year old picture and I think it is better to keep Northam than give the GOP what they want.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)A Governor Northam gives them a perfect shield.
He needs to go.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)And if he continues to advance good Democratic policies and atones for the pic....he should be fine. Better than letting the ratfuckers win.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)with everything we have. No way we allow them to take what they can no longer win...this is what is happening in Virginia and make no mistake, it is a blueprint of their strategy in 20 and beyond.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)my opinion. We must stop them.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)And I don't think the right-wing are the only ones behind that particular endeavor.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Fairfax to resign? Think about the me to movement...and I promise you other accusers most likely anonymous will come forward Ala Franken. How can he get support from Democrats? And he is president of the Senate charged with overseeing legislation...where will this end? They have already tried to force Attorney General Herring to resign. This is a plot to overturn an election.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)about Fairfax. I still say a 35 year old picture should not force a resignation...especially if it was set up by a shitty rat fucking organization like Big House Publishing...make no mistake- this is a coup...whatever Northam did 35 years ago is not worth ceding control of Virginia to the GOP especially with a census in 20.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)because their candidate was so blatantly racist, for the right moment to deploy it, when it would create the most division.
Like with Franken.