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catbyte

(34,402 posts)
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 03:14 PM Feb 2019

The damage will be permanent and what we're about to lose will be irretrievable.

I'm so goddamned sad and angry I could just scream.



Bulldozers will soon start ripping through the National Butterfly Center in the Rio Grande Valley as early as this month to build Trump's wall - leading to the extinction of certain endangered species & the demolition of Native American historical sites.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bulldozers-to-soon-plow-through-national-butterfly-center-for-trumps-border-wall/ar-BBQASc2?ocid=st

2:31 AM - Feb 4, 2019
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The damage will be permanent and what we're about to lose will be irretrievable. (Original Post) catbyte Feb 2019 OP
K&R suffragette Feb 2019 #1
Make a donation to their legal defense. Big Blue Marble Feb 2019 #2
Thanks for posting the link. catbyte Feb 2019 #4
Done and thank you for sharing the link, Big Blue Marble! pazzyanne Feb 2019 #14
Thanks for that! DFW Feb 2019 #19
Thank you for the link - just donated. TeapotInATempest Feb 2019 #34
Thanks for the link deek Feb 2019 #38
As noted in this comment on that site, better to donate to the Butterfly Center itself than this NJ JudyM Feb 2019 #43
Thanks for the heads up JT99 Feb 2019 #60
Yes, wonderful to get a quick, direct response like that. JudyM Feb 2019 #61
Let the insanity proceed Blue Owl Feb 2019 #3
Information on the National Butterfly Center klook Feb 2019 #5
This is deliberate. Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #6
Absolutely!!!! The hallmark of the sociopath is the joy of creating pain. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #29
It's why they had that 2naSalit Feb 2019 #31
YEP..They love to make us hate them. n/t wroberts189 Feb 2019 #40
This is crazy! Pisces Feb 2019 #7
THEY continue to DESTROY!!!!!! bluestarone Feb 2019 #8
At least one of the people who works there voted for Trump, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #9
Now is not the time for surrender. imo saidsimplesimon Feb 2019 #11
If I was within driving distance I would be there to do whatever I could to stop this. Doremus Feb 2019 #13
Never give up fighting for the future! pazzyanne Feb 2019 #15
this is fucked - democrats need offense certainot Feb 2019 #10
Why do they have to start there??!! Delmette2.0 Feb 2019 #12
It's federal land. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #16
I knew about it being a sanctuary, Delmette2.0 Feb 2019 #25
Easy: what would most annoy "libtards". JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #18
That Stupid..... titanicdave Feb 2019 #17
Let those illegal butterflies ... aggiesal Feb 2019 #20
the rapture right, religious fanatics, believe the earth will be destroyed soon so yaesu Feb 2019 #21
Yes, and the whole biblical notion of humans being good stewards of the land robbob Feb 2019 #27
jesus is coming, maybe today rampartc Feb 2019 #51
Hey, it's all going to be gone in coupla' billion years anyway. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2019 #22
Can't they get an injunction to stop this? Soph0571 Feb 2019 #23
we're never going to get any of this time back. start public impeachment proceedings. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #24
Why! This is appalling. yardwork Feb 2019 #26
Has wall funding been approved? FiveGoodMen Feb 2019 #28
They have funding already approved they have not spent. n/t EX500rider Feb 2019 #36
K&R Media needs to be reporting more on this diva77 Feb 2019 #30
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #32
All this for Susan Sarandon's "Revolution." R B Garr Feb 2019 #33
FUCK SUSAN SARANDON Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #39
Really? chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #50
No way does Sarandon and those espousing lies about R B Garr Feb 2019 #55
Just getting tired of hearing about it, Ad nauseam. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #56
I get tired of hearing how Democrats are somehow R B Garr Feb 2019 #57
Nope, I'm equally sick of everything you've just stated. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #62
2016 was an election that repeated the same lies used R B Garr Feb 2019 #64
There is no ego focusing. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #71
I'm tired of reading the same old lies from the same R B Garr Feb 2019 #74
Welcome to ignore. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #80
Who cares. You chose to try and twist my comments about R B Garr Feb 2019 #81
Unfortunately, the horses at issue here don't appear to be quite dead yet. MH1 Feb 2019 #70
I'm done. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #72
Maybe if the people being posted about had shown up when it counted MH1 Feb 2019 #58
I like to focus my energy in a positive way. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #63
I feel as you do, sad and angry. cp Feb 2019 #35
This is terrible treestar Feb 2019 #37
This is lunacy. We are destroying our own habitat. This is what you get when you elect morons. c-rational Feb 2019 #41
Guardians riverwalker Feb 2019 #42
He's building a wall? Where did he get the money? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #44
Un-earmarked money in every department & at140 Feb 2019 #52
Yea but you gotta get Trump to sign it fescuerescue Feb 2019 #65
not if 2/3 of congress over-rides his veto. at140 Feb 2019 #66
Which is probably even less likely fescuerescue Feb 2019 #67
agree there..never easy to override at140 Feb 2019 #69
I hate to say it, but I keep referring back to this image. CaptainTruth Feb 2019 #45
I hate to say it but Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #47
Of course bdamomma Feb 2019 #76
wtf how is he building a wall w/o funding? TalenaGor Feb 2019 #46
That's what I'd like to know? Cha Feb 2019 #49
In a $4,000,000,000,000 federal spending budget each year at140 Feb 2019 #68
$1.6 Billion was already passed in 2018 TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #75
but was that intended for a wall? or does he not even need to specify? TalenaGor Feb 2019 #78
It was for "border security" TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #79
:( Cha Feb 2019 #48
I want to scream too. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2019 #53
This is a travesty. Nitram Feb 2019 #54
Of course he will start his wall at a location that will cause the most harm. CrispyQ Feb 2019 #59
They are monsters bdamomma Feb 2019 #73
So sad - literally an extinction level event. FM123 Feb 2019 #77

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
43. As noted in this comment on that site, better to donate to the Butterfly Center itself than this NJ
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 11:56 PM
Feb 2019

organization...

Sorry, but I do not trust a GoFundMe page like this, when you can donate directly TO the Buttetfly Center itself. https://www.nationalbutterflycenter.org/support-nbc/donate-now Plus, this GoFundMe is supporting a butterfly group in New Jersey without a clear explanation of how it will benefit the threatened group in TEXAS.


Seems right to go directly to that link...

JT99

(36 posts)
60. Thanks for the heads up
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:09 PM
Feb 2019

I donated directly to the NBC at their web site and received a very enthusuastic email confirmation. 🦋🦋🦋

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
61. Yes, wonderful to get a quick, direct response like that.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:17 PM
Feb 2019

Thanks for donating, the more of us, the better!

littlemissmartypants

(22,692 posts)
29. Absolutely!!!! The hallmark of the sociopath is the joy of creating pain.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

To love is to hurt for the sociopath. The more pain and suffering they create the better. It is a truly evil and twisted state of mind.

There isn't enough hate in the world to stop him him because hate is what he feeds on.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
31. It's why they had that
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

big inventory two years ago, remember? They wanted to know where to cause the most harm/damage for strategic affect.

Wake up and Alert everyone who can make this stop.


bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
8. THEY continue to DESTROY!!!!!!
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

What the fuck is wrong with people? GOD DAM this pisses me off!!!! Something has to give here!! PLEASE Mueller get these fuckers out of our life!!!!!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
9. At least one of the people who works there voted for Trump,
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:10 PM
Feb 2019

and has complained that he really didn't think Trump meant it about building the wall.

Sadly, this is only one of many things that are happening now that are destroying our environment, or rolling back desperately needed regulations, and so on.

This country is in a steep decline, and we may as well all be resigned to that.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
11. Now is not the time for surrender. imo
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:19 PM
Feb 2019

I have resigned myself to a life or death struggle for the US until the majority succeeds in reversing the course.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
13. If I was within driving distance I would be there to do whatever I could to stop this.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:30 PM
Feb 2019

From Ohio. If there are people planning to be there in person to provide a human wall, let me know where I can donate some travel $$.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
12. Why do they have to start there??!!
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:25 PM
Feb 2019

New construction hasn't been fucking approved by Congress!

Yes, I'll donate to the legal go fund me account.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
16. It's federal land.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:40 PM
Feb 2019

Most of the land along the border is privately owned, and the lawsuits haven’t moved through the courts yet.

I am so angry over this and everything else this ignoramous has done to our country and will continue to do for the next two years. I generally do not wish evil on other people, but I sincerely wish this man would just have a major heart attack or stroke—anything to put him out of commission indefinitely.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
25. I knew about it being a sanctuary,
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 05:15 PM
Feb 2019

I didn't know it was federal land.

It doesn't make a bit of sense to build a chunk of wall in the middle of nowhere. And nother on either end.



JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
18. Easy: what would most annoy "libtards".
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:43 PM
Feb 2019

Bannon, Miller, Mulvaney probably deciding, in consultation with Limbaugh and Coulter.

"Let's annoy some libtards in that Democrat party".

titanicdave

(429 posts)
17. That Stupid.....
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:40 PM
Feb 2019

Wall is not worth the powder to blow it to hell.......it will never work.....it is a Medieval device that has NO PLACE in the 21st Century......

aggiesal

(8,917 posts)
20. Let those illegal butterflies ...
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:55 PM
Feb 2019

stay in Mexico.
How dare they come over and mooch off our good graces.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
21. the rapture right, religious fanatics, believe the earth will be destroyed soon so
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 04:59 PM
Feb 2019

there is no need to worry about climate change or butterflies. Use up everything, destroy everything is their creed.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
27. Yes, and the whole biblical notion of humans being good stewards of the land
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 05:23 PM
Feb 2019

is completely without value for them.

rampartc

(5,410 posts)
51. jesus is coming, maybe today
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:07 AM
Feb 2019

if he wants butterflies he can raise them ftom the dead.

do i really need a "sarcasm" tag?

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
24. we're never going to get any of this time back. start public impeachment proceedings.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 05:06 PM
Feb 2019

the general public needs to know how unfit the *prez* really is.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
55. No way does Sarandon and those espousing lies about
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:52 AM
Feb 2019

Democrats get a pass. She lied about Gore, too, and he was decades ahead of his time on environmental issues. No more lying about Democrats. This is on them. That is the gaslighting you should be concerned about.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
56. Just getting tired of hearing about it, Ad nauseam.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:07 PM
Feb 2019

If I had a penny for every time I read a negative post about Bernie Sanders, Susan Sarandon, Jill Stein, Bernie Bros., etc....

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
57. I get tired of hearing how Democrats are somehow
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:20 PM
Feb 2019

deficient just to prop up egos. There’s much more at stake now, but articles like this really bring home what has been sacrificed. You should be more sick of the destruction wrought by Bush Jr and Trump, considering they were preventable. Nader / Sarandon egos are not my concern, sorry.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
62. Nope, I'm equally sick of everything you've just stated.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:15 PM
Feb 2019

I focus on the now and tomorrow; the next election and such. Beating a dead horse after awhile starts to get old.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
64. 2016 was an election that repeated the same lies used
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:35 PM
Feb 2019

on Gore, so the only reason you are hearing about it is the same people were pushing the same lies. The lies and deception benefit only the GOP, and that’s what we talk about here. The divisiveness was picked up by the Russians and they amplified it. That is what we should be focusing on, not the egos of a few people. We deserve better.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
71. There is no ego focusing.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:58 PM
Feb 2019

I'm tired of reading about the same complaints. It reminds me of this scene from A Few Good Men.

[link:

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
74. I'm tired of reading the same old lies from the same
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:22 PM
Feb 2019

people about Democrats. I’m tired of reading the same old complaints about Democrats. The lies about Gore paved the way to the actions being taken today by illegitimate Republican presidents who squeezed by from very marginal EC “wins”, mostly from those who believed lies about Democrats.

Sorry, but Im more concerned with Democrats being lied about than someone trying to browbeat others to stifle.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
81. Who cares. You chose to try and twist my comments about
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:32 PM
Feb 2019

someone who has harmed my party and more than once. I’m not about to shut up about it.

Any comments on the article?? You should comment on the article instead of me.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
70. Unfortunately, the horses at issue here don't appear to be quite dead yet.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:56 PM
Feb 2019

If someone wants to run again in the 2020 primary that's a big fat NOPE from me, for all the reasons being discussed here.

It isn't about fighting old battles, it's about trying to keep nemeses from prior elections from doing the same thing AGAIN.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
58. Maybe if the people being posted about had shown up when it counted
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:35 PM
Feb 2019

You wouldn't have to keep hearing about how pissed we are at them.

These people are not leaders, or at least not leaders of anything good. If they were, the OP I'm writing a response on, would never have to exist.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
63. I like to focus my energy in a positive way.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019

Getting hung up on past injustices and what not makes me feel like an angry ex.

at140

(6,110 posts)
52. Un-earmarked money in every department &
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:28 AM
Feb 2019

Military is my guess. Congress needs to pass a law ASAP to specifically prohibit ANY type of wall.

at140

(6,110 posts)
69. agree there..never easy to override
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:44 PM
Feb 2019

presidential veto's. But it is POSSIBLE and has been done before.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
45. I hate to say it, but I keep referring back to this image.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:57 AM
Feb 2019

I feel like this is what we must be prepared for.

Watching Trump & the GOP, they have gone way beyond disagreements over policy. They are attacking the very essence of our country. At some point we may have to choose between defending our country, or not defending it.

[link:|

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
47. I hate to say it but
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:10 AM
Feb 2019

That's a bunch of white guys right there - aka - statistically likely reliable Trump voters.

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
76. Of course
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:24 PM
Feb 2019

it will come to this, didn't our ancestors do everything in their power to attack outsiders, in this case homegrown insiders. If it's between us and them to protect this country and our families I vote it will be us to rise up. ENOUGH

at140

(6,110 posts)
68. In a $4,000,000,000,000 federal spending budget each year
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:43 PM
Feb 2019

there must be plenty of money to be used for nefarious purposes.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
79. It was for "border security"
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 09:25 PM
Feb 2019

Some is for repair of existing barriers, some is for new barriers, some is to hire more border agents. All of it is a clusterfuck, yet he wants even more money.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
53. I want to scream too.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 09:38 AM
Feb 2019

I can’t take this destruction of nature. 😭😭😭 It’s happening more cruelly with the orange pos and his gop pals, but it would be happening even without them, just a little more slowly.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
59. Of course he will start his wall at a location that will cause the most harm.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:27 PM
Feb 2019

Did we expect any less of this vile, vulgar man?

bdamomma

(63,870 posts)
73. They are monsters
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:07 PM
Feb 2019

they want to kill our climate, animals, and environment.

They met opposition on this and they are still doing it???? This is horrible. What can we do??? Those bulldozers showed up at night, that is rather telling, fucking cowards.

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