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OK, I know that whenever we criticize people, we have to do so carefully, after all, the crumbs we make will be made into a loaf by the GOP, who does not even pretend to give a damn.
However, I really need to ask this..because we know the GOP loves the "honey trap", why, why do so many Democratic leaders fall for it? Yes we know that even if there was a full video of a GOP slime doing things too nasty for even the internet to show, all he has to go is go to a church, and get "redeemed." WE however have fallen and lost some great warriors.
Why, is all I ask.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)and judgement. It is a more of a gender thing, not a political thing.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Hell they blew a senate race in a deep red state by nominating a man who was banned from the mall for hitting on teen girls.
Perhaps sexual history and consent should be part of the vetting process.
applegrove
(118,778 posts)The last three were being horndogs on their own. If powerful men behave this way repeatedly they are going to get caught.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Those were horny dudes.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)the brain must totally shut down. Almost always ends badly.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Before he migrated to Florida where he was born, He and his dad came to visit me when he returned home. He was at least a foot taller, handsome and articulate. He was very focused about his college plans. We were talking and I asked him about the girls and I told him to always remember the following Chinese advice which is regularly said in Jamaican dialect, 'man with hard dick have soft head'. He was quite surprised. His dad laughed and told him that he won't get better advice.
He won a prestigious scholarship last year and is now in college. I reminded him over Christmas dinner last year and he laughed and told me that he will never forget my advice.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I got custody of my son when he was about to go into the 8th grade, and I warned him, "Even if you have videotape of a girl in your school doing it with every guy there, if you "win" the DNA lottery, the child support payments are coming out of your future earnings, not mine!" He's now a computer programmer in Seattle, with a wonderful wife. Sadly, no grandchildren.
malaise
(269,157 posts)YET - you'll get some.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)He's 36, and his wife is about nine years older than he is. But, he's a fine young man, and by getting his custody, I was able to steer him straight. That's pretty meaningful to me.
But I was adopted, it's possible that he and his wife might do the same.
malaise
(269,157 posts)You were clearly a great dad
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)912gdm
(959 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Fairfax the jury is out but if true he is scum and deserves no sympathy. The allegations are rape.
Gary Hart like to have affairs and his wife was ok with it. In 2020 it wouldn't even register. He was the first test case of the politics of personal destruction by the Bush Cabal as he was viewed as a threat in 1988.
E. Sptizer was entrusted with upholding the law and broke the law by seeing prostitutes. As a prosecutor he put men and women in jail for behavior he engaged in. I'm pretty on the fence whether prostitution should be illegal or highly regulated. Either way Spitzer prosecuted people for it.
Bill Clinton....it all depends on who you view credible. Presidents have been having affairs in office since early on in the founding of this country. I think the rape allegations are bullshit and the sexual harassment allegations I'm 50-50 on. 30 years earlier the insiders in Washington would whisper about the affair and the press would never report on it.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Justin Fairfax is alleged to have raped two women while single - A vicious felony - Nowhere near the same ballpark.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I don't like these things being conflated
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)no rape does not = "honey trap"
however, it does still make me ask why , knowing that they will not be forgiven, unlike the GOP, why so many Dems are thinking with what another person in this thread called the "little head".