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(22,672 posts)Begin the mass hiring of FBI arresting agents and start the raids.
We know enough and shouldn't have to wait any longer.
Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)He is the very definition of a flight risk.
bluestarone
(17,060 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,778 posts)Seems like he should have gone to jail if they had enough conspiracy/ collusion evidence. Considering he met with Assange and was working with Guccifer 2.0, promising and delivering on dumps of hacked emails (Podesta etc.), it seems a very generous bail on the part of the Judge.
PS Is Guccifer a take-off on Lucifer?? So many questions, and only Mueller's team and those implicated know what the hell happened. We need answers.
mercuryblues
(14,544 posts)It is based on his charges.
6 counts of lying to congress and 1 count of obstruction.
These charges have nothing to do with the crime. It has to do with the coverup. Mueller can ammend the indictment as needed. Look at how he handled Manafucked. Then after all that Mueller had the judge null the deal because Manafucked wouldn't stop lying to investigators.
Evolve Dammit
(16,778 posts)and/or violation of gag order it could ratchet up the bail conditions? He does not have a plea agreement, so lack of cooperation is not a factor at this point?
mercuryblues
(14,544 posts)He couldn't stop committing crimes while out on bail, so bail was revoked.
I see Stone violating the court order and having bail revoked. It will work pretty much like on TV. Only it will take weeks, if not months.
With Manafucked, Mueller wanted cooperation. The longer he was uncooperative the more charges Mueller dropped on him. After the 3rd time an agreement was made. Manafort agreed to tell the truth in exchange for a shortened sentence. Only Manafucked still lied and now he is looking at 29 years.
I see Stone following the same path. He can't keep his mouth shut, so he will eventually violate court orders. He has also made millions from being a liar, he can't stop himself. The longer he holds out, the more charges will be dropped on him. The filing yesterday hinted at some big crimes and Mueller has the evidence to prove it. His only hope to get out of prison before he dies is to be 100% truthful. But like I said, Stone can't stop lying. He has Stone on wiretaps colluding with Guccifer2.o, who in reality was a Russian intelligence operative talking about the emails. Has him on tape colluding with Assange about releasing the emails in the most harmful way for the Clinton campaign. wiretaps, emails and text messages - Mueller has it all.
A good prosecutor already knows the answer to a question before s/he asks it. He will know if Stone is lying to him. He just won't let on that he knows.
mercuryblues
(14,544 posts)Stone just upped his chances of being in jail.
SWBTATTReg
(22,171 posts)have the same value as stealing mail from the US Post Office, or other Post Office mail boxes/drop off boxes (e.g., stealing social security checks out of someone's mail for example)? I know that they passed some additional electronic fraud/etc. measures in Congress but I don't know any of the details of the bills supposedly passed.