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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 10:55 AM Feb 2019

What if Clump declares a national emergency and takes SNL off air?





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Nothing funny about tired Saturday Night Live on Fake News NBC! Question is, how do the Networks get away with these total Republican hit jobs without retribution? Likewise for many other shows? Very unfair and should be looked into. This is the real Collusion!
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What if Clump declares a national emergency and takes SNL off air? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 OP
As he continues to install himself as dictator and many republicans are cowards and/or RKP5637 Feb 2019 #1
You know he'll try MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #2
Willing to place a wager on it? onenote Feb 2019 #25
No one will bet against it MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #31
I will. onenote Feb 2019 #45
Deal MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #46
SNLunderground.com will take over. democratisphere Feb 2019 #3
How would he do that? htuttle Feb 2019 #4
LBJ did it THRU sponsors and bosses of Smothers Brothers jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #8
He sends the Secret Service to commandeer the station. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #9
They can tape and broadcast television shows from anywhere nowadays htuttle Feb 2019 #10
Like no way he can kidnap Children in our name tavernier Feb 2019 #33
fuck, nobody better tell him jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #5
Republican hit jobs? Aha! I KNEW that show was full of Croney Feb 2019 #6
I bet Soxfan58 Feb 2019 #7
I'll take your bet. onenote Feb 2019 #26
So that 43% would approve a democrat shutting down Fox news? keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #11
Of course they wouldn't approve of dems shutting down Fox, but IOKIYAR. CrispyQ Feb 2019 #22
Imho, they recognize the hypocrisy but they don't care. n/t area51 Feb 2019 #49
I agree in their hearts they know they are bogus. CrispyQ Feb 2019 #50
What's the National Emergency that will allow him to do that? brooklynite Feb 2019 #12
That question would be better asked of the president. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #14
Equally relevant question:what statutory provision allows that in the event of a national emergency? onenote Feb 2019 #15
Answer DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #17
See post #20 onenote Feb 2019 #21
trDump is a Mafioso Thug,... he will rile up his base into a frenzy.... magicarpet Feb 2019 #13
He'd Never Get Made! ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #39
Except his base wouldn't give a shit FakeNoose Feb 2019 #42
Yes,.... just like PingPong Pizza.... magicarpet Feb 2019 #43
FFS. The law doesn't work like that, as has been explained on DU multiple times. onenote Feb 2019 #16
Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #18
Nope. onenote Feb 2019 #20
It appears that....first he has to declare war... littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #23
Or a national emergency. Hmmmmm DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #24
Why do you keep ignoring 706(g)? onenote Feb 2019 #28
I fully agree he cannot do it BUT bluestarone Feb 2019 #48
He could do what? jberryhill Feb 2019 #51
Taking away Tee Vee from the pundits and his groupies littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #30
There's always Bread and Puppet. I am sure they'd love to have a go. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #19
the 80's were good times in Vermont... handmade34 Feb 2019 #34
Poor trump's feelings are hurt Gothmog Feb 2019 #27
THEN maybe we'd see the coast-to-coast uprising needed to wash trump out of office. Paladin Feb 2019 #29
All they have to do is come up with a competing RW comedy show MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #32
There have been attempts at RW "comedy" shows but none have been successful The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #35
Hard To Make Locking Up Kids Into A Joke ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #40
Oh man.... jberryhill Feb 2019 #52
"Unfortunately for them..." handmade34 Feb 2019 #36
Exactly. That's the source of their frustration. MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #37
What a pathetic little snowflake! smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #38
Let Trumplethinskin try to cancel out the 1st Amendment..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #41
Poor baby Gothmog Feb 2019 #44
From Betty Bowers Gothmog Feb 2019 #47
when it's the democratic party time we take FOX off air ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #53
We don't take anybody off the air. That's what the First Amendment is all about. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #54
lol ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #55
Do you actually think it's a good idea for the government to shut down a media organization The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #56

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. As he continues to install himself as dictator and many republicans are cowards and/or
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

on the take anything is possible.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
45. I will.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 03:10 PM
Feb 2019

I'll give you 100-1 odds. If Trump declares a national emergency and tries to shut down SNL, I'll donate $100 to DU. If he doesn't, you donate $1.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
8. LBJ did it THRU sponsors and bosses of Smothers Brothers
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:08 AM
Feb 2019

they kept censoring and Tommy got more and more creative to get around them...then BAM..cancelled.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
10. They can tape and broadcast television shows from anywhere nowadays
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:15 AM
Feb 2019

There's a studio they usually use, but that can be anywhere, especially for a show like SNL. There's no TV transmitter involved. It gets streamed over the net (or over satellite link) to affiliates in local markets who do the broadcasting.

And if he thinks he gets bad press now, lol...


 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
5. fuck, nobody better tell him
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:06 AM
Feb 2019

LBJ got Smothers Brothers cancelled as they were critical of his VN War...oh I cried that day...

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
7. I bet
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:06 AM
Feb 2019

lindsey graham will try to have Senate hearing. Call Lorne Michaels, and Alex Baldwin before his committee.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
26. I'll take your bet.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:21 PM
Feb 2019

If it happens, I'll donate $100 to DU. It it doesn't you donate $1 to DU.

Deal?

keithbvadu2

(36,923 posts)
11. So that 43% would approve a democrat shutting down Fox news?
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:32 AM
Feb 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142128590

New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media

“Freedom of the press may be guaranteed in the Constitution. But a plurality of Republicans want to give President Trump the authority to close down certain news outlets, according to a new public opinion survey conducted by Ipsos and provided exclusively to The Daily Beast.”

So that 43% would approve a democrat shutting down Fox news?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-poll-43-of-republicans-want-to-give-trump-the-power-to-shut-down-media?via=twitter_page

CrispyQ

(36,526 posts)
22. Of course they wouldn't approve of dems shutting down Fox, but IOKIYAR.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:02 PM
Feb 2019

It's OK If You Are Republican.

I think their hypocrisy has worn me down the most over the years, how members & supporters of the GOP & the media don't see how fucking hypocritical they are in how they report on dems vs. repubs.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
15. Equally relevant question:what statutory provision allows that in the event of a national emergency?
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:43 AM
Feb 2019

Answer: NONE.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
13. trDump is a Mafioso Thug,... he will rile up his base into a frenzy....
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:38 AM
Feb 2019

.... and have one of his Nazi Fascist nincompoops bomb the SNL - NBC studios in New York.

Then proclaim he does not in sight or condone violence in any way, shape, or form.

ProfessorGAC

(65,199 posts)
39. He'd Never Get Made!
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:32 PM
Feb 2019

Way too cowardly to do a hit, and he isn't an earner.
He's a pretend mobster, because the outfit would never have him.

FakeNoose

(32,773 posts)
42. Except his base wouldn't give a shit
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:40 PM
Feb 2019

... most of them don't even watch SNL (my guess) and the ones who do, wouldn't want the show cancelled.
We give way too much leverage to the "base" anyway. It's time we stop doing that.

Just sayin'

onenote

(42,768 posts)
16. FFS. The law doesn't work like that, as has been explained on DU multiple times.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:46 AM
Feb 2019

The National Emergencies Act allows the president to declare a national emergency and on that basis, can take certain actions under the terms of around 100 statutory provisions that expressly refer back to the NEA.

Get back to me when you locate the statutory provision that addresses shutting down a specific television program.

Thank goodness the folks filing legal challenges to the president's action know how the law works and aren't making arguments based on the kind of nonsensical hyperbole in the OP.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
18. Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:48 AM
Feb 2019

(c) Upon proclamation by the President that there exists war or a threat of
war, or a state of public peril or disaster or other national emergency, or in order
to preserve the neutrality of the United States, the President, if he deems it
necessary in the interest of national security or defense, may suspend or amend, for
such time as he may see fit, the rules and regulations applicable to any or all
stations or devices capable of emitting electromagnetic radiations within the
jurisdiction of the United States as prescribed by the Commission, and may cause
the closing of any station for radio communication, or any device capable of
emitting electromagnetic radiations between 10 kilocycles and 100,000
megacycles, which is suitable for use as a navigational aid beyond five miles, and
the removal therefrom of its apparatus and equipment, or he may authorize the use
or control of any such station or device and/or its apparatus and equipment, by any
department of the Government under such regulations as he may prescribe upon just compensation to the owners. The authority granted to the President, under this
subsection, to cause the closing of any station or device and the removal therefrom
of its apparatus and equipment, or to authorize the use or control of any station or
device and/or its apparatus and equipment, may be exercised in the Canal Zone

onenote

(42,768 posts)
20. Nope.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:58 AM
Feb 2019

First of all, nothing in Section 706(c) allows the president, in the event of a national emergency, to shut down a single program on a single broadcast network.

Second,706(g), contains the following limitation on the president's authority under 706(c) as follows:

(g) Nothing in subsection (c) or (d) shall be construed to authorize the President to make any amendment to the rules and regulations of the Commission which the Commission would not be authorized by law to make; and nothing in subsection (d) shall be construed to authorize the President to take any action the force and effect of which shall continue beyond the date after which taking of such action would not have been authorized.

littlemissmartypants

(22,819 posts)
23. It appears that....first he has to declare war...
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:11 PM
Feb 2019

Communications Act of 1934
By Roosevelt Institute | 09.01.10

http://rooseveltinstitute.org/communications-act-1934/

What is the Communications Act of 1934?

Written and passed during FDR’s first term, the Communications Act of 1934 consolidated existing radio, television, and telephone regulations and created the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to oversee all interstate and foreign communications. It was intended to streamline the regulatory process and expand affordable access to communication services.

The bill also established regulatory standards for various types of communications, including Title I services, which are subject to looser restrictions, and Title II services, which fall under more rigorous “common carrier” rules intended to protect equal access to these networks.

What’s the significance?

As communications networks came to occupy a more prominent role in American society, the FCC’s influence grew along with them. Throughout its history, it has often provoked controversy due to its efforts to police obscene content, which some see as a violation of free speech. In 1996, the Telecommunications Act amended the 1934 law in an attempt to bring it up to date with modern technology. However, critics noted that the new law also weakened ownership rules designed to prevent the growth of telecom monopolies.

Currently the FCC is at the center of the debate over net neutrality. In 2002, it ruled that most forms of broadband Internet access did not qualify as telecommunications services, and were therefore not subject to Title II’s common carrier regulations. Supporters of net neutrality, who believe that the Internet must be kept free and equally accessible to everyone, argue that the FCC should establish new regulations to include broadband Internet services or that Congress should pass another law to expand the FCC’s authority.

Who’s talking about it?

Sarah Nathan explained how the regulations established in 1934 led to the current battle over net neutrality… Leslie Harris argued that the current limits on the FCC’s jurisdiction are an anachronism… Adam Cohen reminded us that the 1934 law grants the president the power to shut down all communications (including the Internet!) in a time of war…The FCC drew criticism for its own net neutrality guidelines…Senator Maria Cantwell wants to add net neutrality principles to the Communications Act.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
24. Or a national emergency. Hmmmmm
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

(c) Upon proclamation by the President that there exists war or a threat of
war, or a state of public peril or disaster or other national emergency, or in order
to preserve the neutrality of the United States, the President, if he deems it
necessary in the interest of national security or defense, may suspend or amend, for
such time as he may see fit, the rules and regulations applicable to any or all
stations or devices capable of emitting electromagnetic radiations within the
jurisdiction of the United States as prescribed by the Commission, and may cause
the closing of any station for radio communication, or any device capable of
emitting electromagnetic radiations between 10 kilocycles and 100,000
megacycles, which is suitable for use as a navigational aid beyond five miles, and
the removal therefrom of its apparatus and equipment, or he may authorize the use
or control of any such station or device and/or its apparatus and equipment, by any
department of the Government under such regulations as he may prescribe upon just compensation to the owners. The authority granted to the President, under this
subsection, to cause the closing of any station or device and the removal therefrom
of its apparatus and equipment, or to authorize the use or control of any station or
device and/or its apparatus and equipment, may be exercised in the Canal Zone

bluestarone

(17,052 posts)
48. I fully agree he cannot do it BUT
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:02 PM
Feb 2019

With this congress who's to stop him? He could do it and let the court fight about it.

littlemissmartypants

(22,819 posts)
30. Taking away Tee Vee from the pundits and his groupies
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:32 PM
Feb 2019

Would definitely start a war. Highly counterproductive and counterintuitive for a wannabe dictator, imo. What's next? Book burning? The kiddies are going to love that. Definitely war making material. No Tee Vee*, no books and throw in no fast food and I think you'll have a winner.


* I'm including blocking the www, which of course would disrupt banking, gaming, commerce and love letters to Vlad, just to mention a few of the affected components under the "Tee Vee" umbrella, by the way.

I'd like to see him go for it. Talk about a mutiny. I doubt there's enough popcorn in the universe. But won't cable guys be in high demand. Sure glad I still have my short wave radio.

ETA: Just think how crazed he'll be if he actually has nothing to do but listen to the voices in his head? I'd buy tickets for that.

littlemissmartypants

(22,819 posts)
19. There's always Bread and Puppet. I am sure they'd love to have a go.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:49 AM
Feb 2019
http://breadandpuppet.org/

“We are the Bread & Puppet Theater because we offer good old sourdough rye bread together with a great variety of puppetshows, some good, some not so good, but all for the good and against the bad. The art of puppetry helps women, men and children alike to overcome the established order and the obsessive submission to its politics and consequent brutalities.”
–Peter Schumann


The Bread and Puppet Theater was founded in 1963 by Peter Schumann on New York City’s Lower East Side. Besides rod-puppet and hand puppet shows for children, the concerns of the first productions were rents, rats, police, and other problems of the neighborhood. More complex theater pieces followed, in which sculpture, music, dance and language were equal partners. The puppets grew bigger and bigger. Annual presentations for Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving and Memorial Day often included children and adults from the community as participants. Many performances were done in the street. During the Vietnam War, Bread and puppet staged block-long processions and pageants involving hundreds of people.

In 1974 Bread and Puppet moved to a farm in Glover in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont. The 140-year old hay barn was transformed into a museum for veteran puppets. Our Domestic Resurrection Circus, a two day outdoor festival of puppetry shows, was presented annually through 1998.

The company makes its income from touring new and old productions both on the American continent and abroad, and from sales of Bread and Puppet Press’ posters and publications. The traveling puppet shows range from tightly composed theater pieces presented by members of the company to extensive outdoor pageants which require the participation of many volunteers.

Today, Bread and Puppet continues to be one of the oldest, nonprofit, self-supporting theatrical companies in the country.

Creative Commons License
This work by Bread and Puppet Theater is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License.
Bread and Puppet Theater
753 Heights Rd
Glover, Vt 05839
802-525-3031

For questions about the following:
Booking, puppetsecretary@gmail.com
Bread & Puppet Museum, call Elka Schumann at (802) 525-6972
Apprenticeship, estelibesteli@gmail.com

I highly recommend them.

Paladin

(28,275 posts)
29. THEN maybe we'd see the coast-to-coast uprising needed to wash trump out of office.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:23 PM
Feb 2019

I mean, it's one thing to lie, cheat, steal and use the U.S. Constitution as toilet paper to wipe shit out of his huge butt in the midst of his morning tweets---but fuck around with SNL? Hey, that's serious.



(satire, but not really)

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
32. All they have to do is come up with a competing RW comedy show
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:57 PM
Feb 2019

Unfortunately for them, there’s no electoral college for TV ratings

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
35. There have been attempts at RW "comedy" shows but none have been successful
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:05 PM
Feb 2019

because RWers aren't funny. What passes for humor in their world consists of insults and slurs. They punch down. Being mean isn't funny, even if they think it is.

ProfessorGAC

(65,199 posts)
40. Hard To Make Locking Up Kids Into A Joke
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:35 PM
Feb 2019

Every joke would be "He lied about something and the liberals are sad."
Laughter would not abound when it's the same bit over & over!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. Oh man....
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:48 AM
Feb 2019

Remember that lame "Half hour news hour" or whatever it was they produced a couple of a few years back?

That was like watching a wreck on the freeway.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. What a pathetic little snowflake!
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:24 PM
Feb 2019

It's comedy you stupid fucktard! Are you so thin skinned that you can't even take a joke? Every other president and prominent politician has been mocked on SNL and none of them ever threw a tantrum over it. He is such a weak, hypersensitive little candy ass!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
41. Let Trumplethinskin try to cancel out the 1st Amendment.....
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:37 PM
Feb 2019

Congress will put its foot down and there will be marching in the streets like never before seen.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
54. We don't take anybody off the air. That's what the First Amendment is all about.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:27 PM
Feb 2019

Suppressing speech is what dictators do.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
56. Do you actually think it's a good idea for the government to shut down a media organization
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:50 PM
Feb 2019

because you disagree with their political messaging? Or were you being sarcastic in the first place and I missed it?

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