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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:13 PM Feb 2019

Teri Kanefield (atty, UC/Berkeley) : How fascists come to power: by creating crisis and spectacle

And what has Trump done? He's created a crisis around the issue of undocumented immigrants, and the spectacle of the wall. And he's used the spectacle to declare a National Emergency.

An emergency which has suddenly given him dozens of new emergency powers.

https://terikanefield-blog.com/governing-by-crisis-spectacle-and-sadopopulism/

Thus the task of the oligarchs is to preserve the status quo, which means preserving their own wealth and power.

6/ But you can’t tell the people THAT. So you tell them a good story.

You tell them the oligarchs are “redeemers.”

A leader comes to power by creating “mystical connection” with the nation and the people.

They earn loyalty by protecting the people from enemies.

7/ The fascist way to power is to promise to restore the nation to its mythic greatness.

OK, so if leaders don’t govern in the usual sense (devising policy to better the lives of the citizens) what do they do all day?

They create crisis and spectacle!



10/ Putin couldn’t have found a more perfect tool: Trump is a natural at identifying enemies, creating spectacle, and lurching from one crisis to another.

11/ Each time Trump creates crisis or spectacle, a chorus of voices (from the left) insist that he’s screwing up, that he’s emotionally brittle, that any moment he’ll bring about his own ruin. They laugh at his idiocy. Maybe he isn’t screwing up at all.

12/ Perhaps he is governing according to the manifesto for how to establish and maintain fascism.

13/ Trump & Team fully understand the Putin-Ilyin method. How do I know? Because Steve Bannon coined the phrase “flood the zone.”



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/

Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down.
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Teri Kanefield (atty, UC/Berkeley) : How fascists come to power: by creating crisis and spectacle (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2019 OP
K&R, and have an enabler like Moscow Mitch uponit7771 Feb 2019 #1
One or more people are feeding 45 this strategy. He is too intellectually incurious to be familiar alwaysinasnit Feb 2019 #2
Putin and Bannon. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #3
Yeah, you're right. Do you think that Mueller has found the communication points alwaysinasnit Feb 2019 #5
He's had multiple private meetings with Putin. Wasn't there one just in November? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #6
There has to be more communication points. 45 can't possibly remember every in-person alwaysinasnit Feb 2019 #7
Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #4
Hugo Chavez did this around 2010. When elections did not look promising, hughee99 Feb 2019 #8
I was chastised a couple of times for posting doom and gloom commentary. Apparently, DontBooVote Feb 2019 #9
I think you have the wrong impression. There is no problem with posting analysis of Trump's actions. pnwmom Feb 2019 #10
That's exactly what I was doing. Watching that fucker has me in a mood today. And there DontBooVote Feb 2019 #11
I don't know what you wrote, but people would object if you were disparaging Democrats at the pnwmom Feb 2019 #12
I wasn't disparaging Democrats. I worked my ass off for 2018. I am a PC for the first time in DontBooVote Feb 2019 #13
Well, I'm glad that you're here. Try not to get discouraged by misunderstandings. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #14

alwaysinasnit

(5,074 posts)
2. One or more people are feeding 45 this strategy. He is too intellectually incurious to be familiar
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

with any of this. Steven Miller comes to mind but I don't think he is alone, or even the originator. Or am I just off my rocker???

alwaysinasnit

(5,074 posts)
5. Yeah, you're right. Do you think that Mueller has found the communication points
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:55 PM
Feb 2019

between 45 and Putin, and has surveillance on them?

alwaysinasnit

(5,074 posts)
7. There has to be more communication points. 45 can't possibly remember every in-person
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

instruction from Putin as he has the attention span of a gnat. Stuff is being relayed to 45 but the question is "how?" I sure hope Mueller has a handle on this.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Recommended.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:54 PM
Feb 2019

And the example of Trump should cause politicians on both sides to reconsider the concept of allowing any President to declare a national emergency, except perhaps in the case of an attack.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Hugo Chavez did this around 2010. When elections did not look promising,
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:49 PM
Feb 2019

He had his legislature grant him the power to rule by decree. It’s not just how fascists come to power, lots of people come to power this way.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
9. I was chastised a couple of times for posting doom and gloom commentary. Apparently,
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

we're not allowed to do that here. We're not supposed to go there, here.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
10. I think you have the wrong impression. There is no problem with posting analysis of Trump's actions.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019
 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
11. That's exactly what I was doing. Watching that fucker has me in a mood today. And there
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:21 PM
Feb 2019

seems to be no end in sight. And I'm afraid that what the OP describes is exactly where we're headed, just like has happened many times in the past. I was accused of being a doom-and-gloomer as a result. Because, you know why?

Because not a single one of us truly knows what is going on. There are 1000s of opinions but not a single sure thing that allows us to believe justice will prevail. And none of us knows what will happen to us as Democrats and Liberals nor to our children and grandchildren. I am terrified for them, not knowing what their future holds. What does our future hold?

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
12. I don't know what you wrote, but people would object if you were disparaging Democrats at the
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:56 PM
Feb 2019

same time.

I hate what's happening, but I think the Democrats are doing what they can do, along with certain Republicans, like Bob Mueller. And I'm not giving up hope. That's what the Russians want us to do -- just accept what's happening as the new reality.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
13. I wasn't disparaging Democrats. I worked my ass off for 2018. I am a PC for the first time in
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:02 PM
Feb 2019

my life. And we kicked some ass! I'm a Democrat, through-and-through and have been my entire conscious life. I thank Dr. Martin Luther King, for one, for helping to calibrate my ideological compass early in my life.

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