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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:20 PM Feb 2019

Amazon's plastic mailers are gumming up recycling operations

From the article:

Over the past year, Amazon has reduced the portion of shipments it packs in its cardboard boxes in favor of lightweight plastic mailers, which enable the retailing giant to squeeze more packages in delivery trucks and planes.
But environmental activists and waste experts say the new plastic sacks, which aren't recyclable in curbside recycling bins, are having a negative effect....

One of the few Fortune 500 companies not to file a corporate social responsibility or sustainability report, the Seattle-based corporation said its "Frustration-Free" packaging program reduced packaging waste by 16 percent and eliminated the need for more than 305 million shipping boxes in 2017....

Some countries put the onus on companies to take greater financial and management responsibility for their products after consumers have finished using them. In these systems, companies pay fees based on how much waste their products and packaging contribute.
To comply with its legal obligations, Amazon pays these fees in some countries outside of the United States. Amazon is already subject to such systems in Canada, according to the nonprofit Canadian Stewardship Services Alliance, which supports the programs throughout the provinces.


To read more:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-amazon-recycling-packaging-20190211-story.html

The only reason that Amazon did this is to reduce their own costs, but the burden of dealing with the waste will be left to the taxpayers.

This is called externalizing of costs, and predatory capitalists love to force the taxpayers to pay what the companies should be paying. And as the article notes, in some countries, Amazon must pay fees or deliberately generating this unrecyclable waste.

The high cost of low prices in action. Consumers pay, and Bezos gets richer.
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Amazon's plastic mailers are gumming up recycling operations (Original Post) guillaumeb Feb 2019 OP
"One of the few Fortune 500 companies not to file a corporate social responsibility or dalton99a Feb 2019 #1
No, but his main goal seems to be to enrich himself. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2
I never thought I'd "hate" a company as much as Wal-Mart... SMC22307 Feb 2019 #3
I am not "ranking" these predatory capitalists. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #9
I always throw mine in the trash. marybourg Feb 2019 #4
And the planet pays for Bezos' decision. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #8
I've stopped ordering from amazon but how do I get rid of the plastic? All of which I kept. notdarkyet Feb 2019 #5
Ask your local government. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #10
Sometimes I reuse the plastic mailers Raine Feb 2019 #6
That is a good idea. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #11
I have a few of those mailers right now Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #7
And you are not alone. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #12
We need more regulation. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #13
I fault legislators, and the SCOTUS, for equating bribery with speech, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #14
You should fault legislators for more than equating bribery with speech, WeekiWater Feb 2019 #15
I agree with you. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #16
We have many local legislative bodies across the US taking the lead on this. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #17
Money drives the US system. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #18
I tend to reuse bubble mailers crazycatlady Feb 2019 #19
One way to get more out of them. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #21
And... loyalsister Feb 2019 #20
True. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #22

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
1. "One of the few Fortune 500 companies not to file a corporate social responsibility or
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:28 PM
Feb 2019

sustainability report"

Bezos doesn't give a shit about his customers, the cities they live in, or the planet they live on

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. Ask your local government.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:41 PM
Feb 2019

In the Chicago area, there is a drop off location a few miles from me where certain types of plastic are taken and recycled into "plastic lumber" products.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. That is a good idea.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

And if you sell things, you could use it as packing material, but the problem remains.

And Amazon did this solely to reduce their own shipping costs. Another example of externalizing their costs.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. I fault legislators, and the SCOTUS, for equating bribery with speech,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:46 PM
Feb 2019

and predatory capitalists for making these terrible decisions based on the sole consideration of making them richer at the expense of others.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. You should fault legislators for more than equating bribery with speech,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:50 PM
Feb 2019

when it comes to these things.

Look at packaging in your grocery store. Look at packaging at the mall. Order meats from Omaha Steaks. The list goes on. Amazon is an easy out and ignores the reason for the problems.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. I agree with you.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:52 PM
Feb 2019

And often, ALEC drafts legislation for legislators to pass. Many lawmakers are often too busy raising money for the endless campaign to actually learn about the issues.

So they allow lobbyists to write the laws.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
17. We have many local legislative bodies across the US taking the lead on this.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:00 PM
Feb 2019

But they have limited control. We really need to do something about this at the federal level. I think we agree on a lot of this. Just about all of it. Packaging is huge. So much of this is a big deal. We need comprehensive environmental reforms but a huge part of our legislators are not willing to do it. Not only that, many want to roll back regulations.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. Money drives the US system.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:04 PM
Feb 2019

And on a Federal level, House members are basically always in campaign mode because of the 2 year term.

So the 1% effectively controls what is considered to be achievable.

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