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My mind just can't forget the Bernie bots, how they were used by Russian bots and what it cost us. (Original Post) allgood33 Feb 2019 OP
I still feel sick about it. lunamagica Feb 2019 #1
Yes and MFM008 Feb 2019 #2
Yes, people forget, Trump was not the only "useful idiot" that Putin used Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #6
Makes it easy to hide Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #3
One was just name-removed (thanks MIRT!) R B Garr Feb 2019 #4
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #5
Yup. Me too...nt SidDithers Feb 2019 #8
Me too. Sigh. nt R B Garr Feb 2019 #9
Yep, as soon as he announced. CaptainTruth Feb 2019 #10
Two things... FirstLight Feb 2019 #7
Yes there was proof, not necessarily here but on the internet and "social media".... George II Feb 2019 #23
Me neither kimbutgar Feb 2019 #11
yeah.. BS is too divisive. Cha Feb 2019 #12
+100000 Mars and Minerva Feb 2019 #17
Aloha, Mars and Minerva.. Cha Feb 2019 #19
Hey Cha! Mars and Minerva Feb 2019 #20
Right again!!! LakeArenal Feb 2019 #29
+200000 Tarheel_Dem Feb 2019 #34
Yup leftynyc Feb 2019 #35
Well. Susan Calvin Feb 2019 #13
They're here in full force today BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #14
Bazinga! George II Feb 2019 #22
Ummhmm. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #27
I'm not trashing threads or terms yet Tribalceltic Feb 2019 #15
You just made a Bernie post, pangaia Feb 2019 #16
Ha. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #33
Bernie helped move the message and I appreciate that. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2019 #18
Robert Mueller confirmed that with his indictment of 13 Russians and 3 Russian entities... George II Feb 2019 #21
Well, I just read that indictment, and it has one sentence PatrickforO Feb 2019 #32
I will never forget either. And dreading it happening again. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #24
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #25
Go Bernie. CentralMass Feb 2019 #26
Many many Sanders supporters will be posting here. David__77 Feb 2019 #28
Fake Progressive Russian Troll Farm Slapped Off Facebook Scurrilous Feb 2019 #30
The bots came back the second he announced. tinrobot Feb 2019 #31
Bernie Bot 2 is in full effect. sarcasmo Feb 2019 #36
Whomever gets the nod Gats my Vote proud patriot Feb 2019 #37

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
6. Yes, people forget, Trump was not the only "useful idiot" that Putin used
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:21 PM
Feb 2019

to degrade our democracy.

Response to allgood33 (Original post)

FirstLight

(13,366 posts)
7. Two things...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:26 PM
Feb 2019

1) How to "hide" threads?

2) Do you have some additional info about the bots? Was there a thread/proof they were posting here? How did I miss this?

(Then again, after all the shit flying for the past 2 years, I might have tuned it out...And I was onto the Jill Stein play for a long time...)

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Yes there was proof, not necessarily here but on the internet and "social media"....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:55 PM
Feb 2019

....just read Mueller's indictment (it's only 37 pages) of February 2018. He spells it all out.

Susan Calvin

(1,650 posts)
13. Well.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:29 PM
Feb 2019

I didn't really want Bernie to run (I am a 2016 Berner), but listening to some arguments about how his views need to be thrown in the mix, now I do.

But I want to see his and all other primary candidates' taxes. Now.

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
15. I'm not trashing threads or terms yet
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:34 PM
Feb 2019

Hoping to get a good bunch of bots and idiots blocked first, I am sure this is part of the long haul strategy to split the party... Again!

NoMoreRepugs

(9,475 posts)
18. Bernie helped move the message and I appreciate that.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:48 PM
Feb 2019

IMO he cannot win a national election and the longer he stays in the race the more he helps tRumpy in 2020.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Robert Mueller confirmed that with his indictment of 13 Russians and 3 Russian entities...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:50 PM
Feb 2019

...in February 2018, just one year ago.

The indictment is excellent reading.

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
32. Well, I just read that indictment, and it has one sentence
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:07 AM
Feb 2019

saying there were Russian agents assigned to support Bernie Sanders. That's all there is in the 37 pages, though.

Interestingly, they did get to Black Lives Matter, and I can remember railing in post after post after post about how social and economic justice go hand in hand, but the prevailing online activity ended up creating a (to my mind) very ugly meme that Bernie was somehow racist and at the least tone deaf toward African Americans.

But Bernie was defeated in the primary. His supporters did work by negotiated deal on the Democratic Party Platform, which I believe strengthened it considerably and moved it to the left.

I have many, many friends and associates in my state and I do not know of anyone who actually refrained from voting for Clinton, or voted Stein. Now, in Colorado, a 'purple' (now very, very Blue) state, Clinton beat Trump by 136,386 votes. The Libertarian wacko Gary Johnson got 144,121 votes, while Stein got 38,437. What this suggests to me is that Johnson took some of Trump's votes and he might have won had the insane Douglas Bruce Libertarian types not wasted their votes on Johnson.

I'd remind you that if we actually had a democratic vote instead of the outmoded electoral college, Clinton would now be in the WH and this long, hateful, racist, homophobic nightmare that is Trump would never have happened. Thus, Colorado may soon be the 13th state that joins the National Popular Vote Compact (NPV).

NPV legislation, if passed by a state legislature and signed into law by that state's governor, simply requires that state's electors to vote the same way the national popular vote went, not in ratio, but winner-take-all. Now, Colorado has 9 electoral votes. So far, the following states have passed NPV initiatives:

District of Columbia – 3 electoral votes
Connecticut - 7 electoral votes
Hawaii – 4 electoral votes
Illinois – 20 electoral votes
Maryland – 10 electoral votes
Massachusetts – 11 electoral votes
New Jersey – 14 electoral votes
Washington – 12 electoral votes
Vermont – 3 electoral votes
California – 55 electoral votes
Rhode Island – 4 electoral votes
New York – 29 electoral votes

This is 172 electoral votes. If Colorado passes, it becomes 181, and we only need another few states equalling 89 electoral votes to pass and enact NPV legislation. When this happens, the electoral college will become defunct and we'll actually have some democracy around here.

I urge anyone reading this post who is NOT in the above-mentioned states to find the NPV group in your state and begin pressuring your legislators. Believe me, we will be better off in the long run without the 'swing' districts and states, and with a national popular vote determining the president.

As to Bernie, I am happy he's in, along with Warren, because between them, they have a fantastic platform that would genuinely help everyone in America. Did you know Warren introduced the 'accountable capitalism act' in August 2018? This act would overturn the primacy of the shareholder doctrine and force CEOs of publicly held companies to consider the welfare of workers, consumers and the environment in addition to shareholder earnings. That would solve SO MANY PROBLEMS it isn't even funny, because it would remove incentive for these big corporations to pollute, bust unions, drive wages and benefits down, gobble up pensions illegally and make unsafe products. Good for Warren!

That said, we have a strong field of candidates - lots of new bench strength. I think Booker, Harris, and others will force the social justice issue, which is good. The two - social and economic justice - really do go hand in hand. I wouldn't worry quite as much about Bernie this time around.

Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
30. Fake Progressive Russian Troll Farm Slapped Off Facebook
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:44 AM
Feb 2019

<snip>

"On Friday, Facebook suspended a Russian propaganda outlet after CNN ripped off the outlet's cheap rubber mask and exposed it as another Scooby Doo villain. As expected, the other Russian troll farms have kicked into overdrive, screaming about #censorship and double standards from the safety of the Kremlin's basement. They're arguing Facebook doesn't have transparency policies so they shouldn't have to tell anyone about all the rubles they get to push Russian talking points. How convenient!

As first published by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, and later reported by CNN, the viral video company Maffick Media was a subsidiary of Ruptly, which itself is a subsidiary of RT, the Kremlin's state-run media outlet. Maffick obscured its ties to the Kremlin by basing itself in Germany, hiring freelancers in Los Angeles, and running its operation out of WeWork spaces (rentable offices for hipsters and cheap douchebags). After CNN aired the report, Facebook suspended Maffick's pages for Waste-Ed, Soapbox, and Backthen, and said, "People connecting with Pages shouldn't be misled about who's behind them," as part of their campaign to root out "coordinated inauthentic behavior and financially motivated spam." Now The Moscow Times reports Maffick's flagship page, In The Now, was blocked."

<snip>

"Maffick responded with a laughably bitchy statement posted to its curiously barren website where it attempts to cast itself as a victim of western imperialism. According to Maffick, they're no different from NPR, PBS, the BBC, the CBC, Al Jazeera, or Deutsche Welle, the only difference is they're funded with rubles. Maffick argues they didn't break any rules on Facebook because Facebook has no rules, and it's now become a pariah of "new McCarthyism." Maffick's two most recognizable faces, CEO Anissa Naouai and "journalist with opinions" Rania Khalek are screaming this breathlessly."


Mrs Olson Says • 11 hours ago

She's a Bernie supporter. Imagine that!




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