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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy mind just can't forget the Bernie bots, how they were used by Russian bots and what it cost us.
I have to hide all Bernie posts for my own health.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)MFM008
(19,821 posts)Jill Stein.....
Maru Kitteh
(28,343 posts)to degrade our democracy.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)this thread.
R B Garr
(16,993 posts)But it was the same old tired bot rot. Disgusting.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
R B Garr
(16,993 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,606 posts)FirstLight
(13,366 posts)1) How to "hide" threads?
2) Do you have some additional info about the bots? Was there a thread/proof they were posting here? How did I miss this?
(Then again, after all the shit flying for the past 2 years, I might have tuned it out...And I was onto the Jill Stein play for a long time...)
George II
(67,782 posts)....just read Mueller's indictment (it's only 37 pages) of February 2018. He spells it all out.
kimbutgar
(21,215 posts)And he never pushed back on them.
Cha
(297,771 posts)Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)Cha
(297,771 posts)Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)LakeArenal
(28,855 posts)The party shouldn't give him one dime.
Susan Calvin
(1,650 posts)I didn't really want Bernie to run (I am a 2016 Berner), but listening to some arguments about how his views need to be thrown in the mix, now I do.
But I want to see his and all other primary candidates' taxes. Now.
BannonsLiver
(16,493 posts)Im already seeing the purity phrases.
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,940 posts)Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)Hoping to get a good bunch of bots and idiots blocked first, I am sure this is part of the long haul strategy to split the party... Again!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,475 posts)IMO he cannot win a national election and the longer he stays in the race the more he helps tRumpy in 2020.
George II
(67,782 posts)...in February 2018, just one year ago.
The indictment is excellent reading.
PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)saying there were Russian agents assigned to support Bernie Sanders. That's all there is in the 37 pages, though.
Interestingly, they did get to Black Lives Matter, and I can remember railing in post after post after post about how social and economic justice go hand in hand, but the prevailing online activity ended up creating a (to my mind) very ugly meme that Bernie was somehow racist and at the least tone deaf toward African Americans.
But Bernie was defeated in the primary. His supporters did work by negotiated deal on the Democratic Party Platform, which I believe strengthened it considerably and moved it to the left.
I have many, many friends and associates in my state and I do not know of anyone who actually refrained from voting for Clinton, or voted Stein. Now, in Colorado, a 'purple' (now very, very Blue) state, Clinton beat Trump by 136,386 votes. The Libertarian wacko Gary Johnson got 144,121 votes, while Stein got 38,437. What this suggests to me is that Johnson took some of Trump's votes and he might have won had the insane Douglas Bruce Libertarian types not wasted their votes on Johnson.
I'd remind you that if we actually had a democratic vote instead of the outmoded electoral college, Clinton would now be in the WH and this long, hateful, racist, homophobic nightmare that is Trump would never have happened. Thus, Colorado may soon be the 13th state that joins the National Popular Vote Compact (NPV).
NPV legislation, if passed by a state legislature and signed into law by that state's governor, simply requires that state's electors to vote the same way the national popular vote went, not in ratio, but winner-take-all. Now, Colorado has 9 electoral votes. So far, the following states have passed NPV initiatives:
District of Columbia 3 electoral votes
Connecticut - 7 electoral votes
Hawaii 4 electoral votes
Illinois 20 electoral votes
Maryland 10 electoral votes
Massachusetts 11 electoral votes
New Jersey 14 electoral votes
Washington 12 electoral votes
Vermont 3 electoral votes
California 55 electoral votes
Rhode Island 4 electoral votes
New York 29 electoral votes
This is 172 electoral votes. If Colorado passes, it becomes 181, and we only need another few states equalling 89 electoral votes to pass and enact NPV legislation. When this happens, the electoral college will become defunct and we'll actually have some democracy around here.
I urge anyone reading this post who is NOT in the above-mentioned states to find the NPV group in your state and begin pressuring your legislators. Believe me, we will be better off in the long run without the 'swing' districts and states, and with a national popular vote determining the president.
As to Bernie, I am happy he's in, along with Warren, because between them, they have a fantastic platform that would genuinely help everyone in America. Did you know Warren introduced the 'accountable capitalism act' in August 2018? This act would overturn the primacy of the shareholder doctrine and force CEOs of publicly held companies to consider the welfare of workers, consumers and the environment in addition to shareholder earnings. That would solve SO MANY PROBLEMS it isn't even funny, because it would remove incentive for these big corporations to pollute, bust unions, drive wages and benefits down, gobble up pensions illegally and make unsafe products. Good for Warren!
That said, we have a strong field of candidates - lots of new bench strength. I think Booker, Harris, and others will force the social justice issue, which is good. The two - social and economic justice - really do go hand in hand. I wouldn't worry quite as much about Bernie this time around.
SunSeeker
(51,740 posts)Response to allgood33 (Original post)
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)David__77
(23,549 posts)I think thats great!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)<snip>
"On Friday, Facebook suspended a Russian propaganda outlet after CNN ripped off the outlet's cheap rubber mask and exposed it as another Scooby Doo villain. As expected, the other Russian troll farms have kicked into overdrive, screaming about #censorship and double standards from the safety of the Kremlin's basement. They're arguing Facebook doesn't have transparency policies so they shouldn't have to tell anyone about all the rubles they get to push Russian talking points. How convenient!
As first published by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, and later reported by CNN, the viral video company Maffick Media was a subsidiary of Ruptly, which itself is a subsidiary of RT, the Kremlin's state-run media outlet. Maffick obscured its ties to the Kremlin by basing itself in Germany, hiring freelancers in Los Angeles, and running its operation out of WeWork spaces (rentable offices for hipsters and cheap douchebags). After CNN aired the report, Facebook suspended Maffick's pages for Waste-Ed, Soapbox, and Backthen, and said, "People connecting with Pages shouldn't be misled about who's behind them," as part of their campaign to root out "coordinated inauthentic behavior and financially motivated spam." Now The Moscow Times reports Maffick's flagship page, In The Now, was blocked."
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"Maffick responded with a laughably bitchy statement posted to its curiously barren website where it attempts to cast itself as a victim of western imperialism. According to Maffick, they're no different from NPR, PBS, the BBC, the CBC, Al Jazeera, or Deutsche Welle, the only difference is they're funded with rubles. Maffick argues they didn't break any rules on Facebook because Facebook has no rules, and it's now become a pariah of "new McCarthyism." Maffick's two most recognizable faces, CEO Anissa Naouai and "journalist with opinions" Rania Khalek are screaming this breathlessly."
Mrs Olson Says 11 hours ago
She's a Bernie supporter. Imagine that!
Link to tweet
https://www.wonkette.com/facebook-maffick-media
tinrobot
(10,924 posts)It's so obvious.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)proud patriot
(100,715 posts)Let's win this