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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLawfare's Benjamin Wittes does NOT believe Mueller is being shut down against his will
Wittes has posted a thread about it starting here:
Link to tweet
He was responding to this tweet from Garrett Graff:
Link to tweet
Everyone caterwauling over Barr immediately "ending" Mueller probe: Remember Mueller's team has had months to prepare to be ousted/fired/shutdown. Idea that they'd be caught by surprise, without recourse, is absurd. If Mueller is wrapping up, he means to.
Text of Wittes's thread:
This is certainly correct. If Mueller were being shut down against his will, he would say something. This clearly reflects his professional judgment, not a nefarious conspiracy by Barr, Whitaker, or anyone else. As such, it is good news.
It means that to the extent Mueller believes answers are obtainable, he has gotten them.
It means that he is in a position to give his findings to Barr--and through Barr, to the Congress and the public.
Yes, there is a question about whether Barr will allow the transmission, but a precondition for that to happen is that Mueller finishes the investigation and reports his findings.
So it is in no sense a bad thing it Mueller is now finished. It is a moment we have been waiting for for the better part of two years--a moment we had good reason to worry would never come.
It is a moment of accountability.
It is a moment we should all welcome, whether we believe the president friend or fiend, whether we believe that there was "NO COLLUSION!" or whether we believe the president conspired with a foreign power.
An investigation is not a permanent state of affairs. It is an effort to answer questions.
I confess I am perplexed by how it can be over with so many apparently open threads--a subject I addressed today with @SykesCharlie on @BulwarkOnline podcast:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-bulwark/e/58900763
That said, I trust Bob Mueller. I trust his staff. I trust the FBI personnel who conducted the investigation. And if they are comfortable referring ongoing matters back to DOJ, then I am comfortable with it too.
And if Mueller is ready to tell us he is done, I have not a shred of interest in the investigation's being prolonged a day longer than it needs to.
We may or may not have a fight on our hands to find out what Mueller has concluded. I'm happy for that to be the fight. It means that Mueller has apparently gotten to finish his probe to his satisfaction. That's a huge win. And we should pause a moment to value it.
That's all I got.
It means that to the extent Mueller believes answers are obtainable, he has gotten them.
It means that he is in a position to give his findings to Barr--and through Barr, to the Congress and the public.
Yes, there is a question about whether Barr will allow the transmission, but a precondition for that to happen is that Mueller finishes the investigation and reports his findings.
So it is in no sense a bad thing it Mueller is now finished. It is a moment we have been waiting for for the better part of two years--a moment we had good reason to worry would never come.
It is a moment of accountability.
It is a moment we should all welcome, whether we believe the president friend or fiend, whether we believe that there was "NO COLLUSION!" or whether we believe the president conspired with a foreign power.
An investigation is not a permanent state of affairs. It is an effort to answer questions.
I confess I am perplexed by how it can be over with so many apparently open threads--a subject I addressed today with @SykesCharlie on @BulwarkOnline podcast:
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-bulwark/e/58900763
That said, I trust Bob Mueller. I trust his staff. I trust the FBI personnel who conducted the investigation. And if they are comfortable referring ongoing matters back to DOJ, then I am comfortable with it too.
And if Mueller is ready to tell us he is done, I have not a shred of interest in the investigation's being prolonged a day longer than it needs to.
We may or may not have a fight on our hands to find out what Mueller has concluded. I'm happy for that to be the fight. It means that Mueller has apparently gotten to finish his probe to his satisfaction. That's a huge win. And we should pause a moment to value it.
That's all I got.
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Lawfare's Benjamin Wittes does NOT believe Mueller is being shut down against his will (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Feb 2019
OP
There may be a plan but that plan was put in place partly in case he was prematurely shutdown.
triron
Feb 2019
#6
I agree with Wittes, and I also think Mueller has created some kind of dead-man switch
The Velveteen Ocelot
Feb 2019
#3
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)1. I agree. There is a plan and it is in progress.
triron
(22,007 posts)6. There may be a plan but that plan was put in place partly in case he was prematurely shutdown.
elleng
(130,974 posts)2. GOOD one.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)3. I agree with Wittes, and I also think Mueller has created some kind of dead-man switch
that will protect the investigation even if Barr or anyone else did try to shut it down. One reason we haven't seen new indictments lately might be that Mueller has already transferred some of the files to other prosecutors, as in SDNY, EDVA and DDC.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)8. Yes, and he also transfered a bunch over to the AG of New York state, as well.
They have been carrying out their own investigations independent of Mueller's. Word has it Trump is going to regret having ratfucked Eric Schneiderman, as Letitia James is supposedly far tougher than he was. And, from what I understand. it's not the same crimes Mueller is going after, either, so no "double jeopardy" worries.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)4. I will believe it's done when Mueller says it is done
Until we hear from Mueller, it's all speculation.
manor321
(3,344 posts)5. Exactly. It only ends when Mueller says so, or Mueller gets fired.
And Mueller hasn't been fired.
Anything else is fearmongering.
triron
(22,007 posts)7. How do you know?