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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:11 AM Feb 2019

POLITICO Playbook: What they're saying about the DNC convention cities


By ANNA PALMER, JAKE SHERMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN 02/21/2019 06:03 AM EST Updated 02/21/2019 07:27 AM EST

DEMOCRATS are anxiously awaiting a decision by the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE on which city will host the 2020 Democratic National Convention. So far, the committee has been mum about whether HOUSTON, MIAMI or MILWAUKEE will get the nod, but we hear part of the delay is because each city has its own downsides.

THE PAIN POINTS …

MIAMI: Dealing with hot weather and potential hurricanes is a major ding on the city’s bid. Plus, there is concern that the city’s arena has too small of a floor plan.

HOUSTON: The big question here is money. The oil and gas industry dominates Houston, and given Democrats’ posture on environmental issues, it isn’t necessarily a good fit for many of the city’s companies to cut large checks to host Democrats. And, of course, hot weather is also an issue.

MILWAUKEE: Still seen as the odds-on favorite, the midsize city has some organizers concerned about its ability to house the influx of people during the three-day event.

DESPITE THE CONCERNS, Democrats involved in the bids believe an announcement could come as soon as next week.

A DNC SPOKESWOMAN said “the DNC hasn’t made any decisions yet and all cities are in the running.”

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POLITICO Playbook: What they're saying about the DNC convention cities (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2019 OP
Milwaukee is the pragmatic choice I would think jcgoldie Feb 2019 #1
That's the beer that made Mel Famie walk us (old baseball joke) Achilleaze Feb 2019 #34
I know the joke! jcgoldie Feb 2019 #36
Milwaukee! Only an hour away from Chicago FakeNoose Feb 2019 #44
Tell a delegate they have to drive 60-90 miles to get to the convention. former9thward Feb 2019 #65
Bus line and Metra xmas74 Feb 2019 #68
You ever been to Milwaukee? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #62
I grew up in Houston...lousy city for conventions pecosbob Feb 2019 #2
Downtown Houston is far far far better now than it was even 10 years ago theboss Feb 2019 #51
Yes, it is much better than it was ten or twenty years ago pecosbob Feb 2019 #52
I don't want Beto to be the high water mark theboss Feb 2019 #55
HOUSTON would be a great city for this convention Gothmog Feb 2019 #75
I am no fan of Milwaukee, but the other two in summer? Wh not just rent out a sauna? DFW Feb 2019 #3
Holy cow! I was at the 1960 L.A. JFK convention, too! VOX Feb 2019 #6
There can't be many of us left that were at THAT one! DFW Feb 2019 #10
Excellent recollections! VOX Feb 2019 #11
I got wise to who Humphrey was later on. DFW Feb 2019 #22
DFW you have the best stories Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #33
Chatting with RFK wasn't as exotic as it might seem if you know the background DFW Feb 2019 #39
Wow. Look like you date back to the time men were dressing their hair with motor oil. Blue_true Feb 2019 #15
Before that, even DFW Feb 2019 #21
LOL. When I feel old, I'll just remember you. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #41
A little dab'll do ya? Brylcreem. 😆 sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #32
BURMA SHAVE The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #37
What is that. I assume some type of shave cream? Blue_true Feb 2019 #43
Yeah, that one too! sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #46
I missed the actual commercials, but kids in school used to say that jingle for a long time. Blue_true Feb 2019 #42
Had to get my father-in-law to stop going around with combed wet hair sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #47
I am a really big fan of naturally drying hair. Blue_true Feb 2019 #72
His hair was pretty short so blow drying only lasted minimal time. sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #74
Houston has the hotels and facilities for a great convention Gothmog Feb 2019 #4
True. But the weather there is summer kicks ass. Blue_true Feb 2019 #16
Air Conditioning kicks back. Bucky Feb 2019 #48
Ick!!!! I want to sweat only during workouts. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #73
Milwaukee zipplewrath Feb 2019 #5
Cruise ship? Lefta Dissenter Feb 2019 #7
Pretty much what a convention is zipplewrath Feb 2019 #9
I'm guessing you weren't at Denver when Obama was nominated DFW Feb 2019 #40
It's all in the layering brooklynite Feb 2019 #54
If there were after-hour parties in Denver DFW Feb 2019 #70
I wondered about that. Blue_true Feb 2019 #17
Madison is about 80 miles from Milwaukee. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #76
That is a pretty good hike to take twice each day. Maybe tour buses so that people can nap? nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #79
Wait, hurricanes are NOT the top concern with Houston, a city devastated by one recently??? themaguffin Feb 2019 #8
Aren't conventions in the summer? theboss Feb 2019 #59
Are they dead set on only those three cities? smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #12
Why not Philly or Minneapolis or Madison? pnwmom Feb 2019 #19
I know! I was thinking Philly or Minneapolis. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #20
'Cause the 2016 DNC Cha Feb 2019 #23
Okay. Seattle then! pnwmom Feb 2019 #24
So you can go? Cha Feb 2019 #25
It would be fun if it were here! But I know we're both in blue states pnwmom Feb 2019 #26
Yeah, it shouldn't be Cha Feb 2019 #28
I agree. Wisconsin would be a good choice. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #30
Philly was 2016 crazycatlady Feb 2019 #38
Non of them bid? brooklynite Feb 2019 #56
But what other cities bid? The four (including Denver till it backed out) were the finalists. pnwmom Feb 2019 #60
I'm in Miami but I'd say pick Milwaukee Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #13
Yeah, the heat and humidity don't bother Cha Feb 2019 #29
Pick Lexington, KY Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #14
Lol.. Good Cha Feb 2019 #31
Milwaukee...we have a better shot at winning Wisconsin than Florida in 2020... BluegrassDem Feb 2019 #18
I don't think anyone imagines that a Convention helps win a State in November. brooklynite Feb 2019 #57
interesting jcgoldie Feb 2019 #64
Pennsylvania wasn't a battleground State until 2016... brooklynite Feb 2019 #66
It sure helped Obama win Colorado in 2008 when Colorado wasn't so blue BluegrassDem Feb 2019 #67
Agreed - this idea of picking battleground states seems to have started with Midwestern Democrat Feb 2019 #71
I agree that it has to be Milwaukee, but... VarryOn Feb 2019 #27
Politically speaking, between those three, Milwaukee is a no-brainer bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #35
I vote for WI TeamPooka Feb 2019 #45
Milwaukee will always be there for future conventions. But coming to Houston right now... Bucky Feb 2019 #49
hey politico, i don't know any democrats that are anxiously awaiting this decision spanone Feb 2019 #50
I am...and I'm figuring what contributions I have to make to get tickets. brooklynite Feb 2019 #58
Great, now I know one. spanone Feb 2019 #61
My kid is interested. xmas74 Feb 2019 #69
I spoke to leadership yesterday and put in a plug for Houston... brooklynite Feb 2019 #53
A city in Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania, please! CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #63
I think it should be Milwaukee. Drunken Irishman Feb 2019 #77
Detroit....Omaha.....Kansas City... so many decent choices SoCalDem Feb 2019 #78

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
1. Milwaukee is the pragmatic choice I would think
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:15 AM
Feb 2019

If the convention gets you any points at all where its held, then Milwaukee has to be the favorite among these 3. Florida is fools gold and if we are close in Texas then we've already won. It all hinges on WI, MI, and PA in 2020... the only 3 Trump states we need.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
36. I know the joke!
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:45 AM
Feb 2019

His name's MILT Famey! One of my favorites to tell to HS math students and none of them get it because they never seen old beer commercials haha!

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
44. Milwaukee! Only an hour away from Chicago
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:11 PM
Feb 2019

There are lots of hotels between Mil. and Chi. Also there are lots of campgrounds in Wisconsin that you could never find in Miami or Houston. Problem solved!







xmas74

(29,674 posts)
68. Bus line and Metra
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:25 PM
Feb 2019

Offer easy access. A relative has also said that the hotels are discussing shuttle service so delegates for easy transport.

Between the two cities you have plenty of nearby suburbs. I don't see delegates staying in Chicago unless they choose.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
2. I grew up in Houston...lousy city for conventions
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:20 AM
Feb 2019

and the city's full of crazies. Miami's probably the best, but also the most expensive. IMO Milwaukee is probably the best choice. I know Texas has turned a bit more purple in the last decade, but I think Dems need to make a big footprint in the Midwest.

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
51. Downtown Houston is far far far better now than it was even 10 years ago
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:49 PM
Feb 2019

The Convention Center, baseball stadium, and Toyota Center are now all within walking distance of plenty of hotels and restaurants. The new Marriot Marquee is even bigger than the Hilton that was built for the Convention Center.

And Harris County and Ft Bend County both went blue for the first time in forever. There's real excitement here for Democrats after decades of hiding.

Also, I would like to go.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
52. Yes, it is much better than it was ten or twenty years ago
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:53 PM
Feb 2019

when you pretty much only had the Dome and the Astrohall. Here's to Texas turning blue!

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
55. I don't want Beto to be the high water mark
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:56 PM
Feb 2019

Being competitive in a Senate race can't be our crowning glory.

But 2020 is set up to be a let-down. Ted Cruz is hated in a very unique way that not even Trump can match. The Republicans will be jazzed again for a presidential race. There probably won't be another Beto drive excitement. We need something to keep momentum going.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
3. I am no fan of Milwaukee, but the other two in summer? Wh not just rent out a sauna?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:27 AM
Feb 2019

If it has been narrowed down to these three (and I can't for the life of me understand why), then the only one that makes any sense whatsoever is Milwaukee. I've only been to one of these things since I was 8 (L.A. 1960), and that was Denver, 2008. Denver was a great choice. Unless Milwaukee has undergone a huge round of renovation, and under Walker, I can't imagine it has, I would have thought plenty of other cities would have been better choices.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. Holy cow! I was at the 1960 L.A. JFK convention, too!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:46 AM
Feb 2019

I was 9, so I’ve got a year on you.
I still have the ticket/pass stashed away somewhere.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
10. There can't be many of us left that were at THAT one!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:01 PM
Feb 2019

Two memories I retain in detail: Groucho Marx, who I knew was famous, but not exactly why was at the poolside of some hotel my dad and I were at, and my dad told me to go up and say hi. So I did and Groucho told me to get lost. My first brush with Hollywood fame!

The other was a reception line for Hubert Humphrey, who was a family friend ever since my dad's mom has been a big fundraiser for him when he first ran for the Senate in 1948. My dad told me to tell him, "hope you get the nomination!" I did, though reluctantly, since I had no clue what a "nomination" was!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. Excellent recollections!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:41 PM
Feb 2019

We lived in L.A., and the trip to the Sports Arena was a big deal back then. That venue was finally demolished three years ago, making way for the Banc of California Stadium, home of the MLS Los Angeles FC.

Nice of you to throw your support behind HHH! A classic, old-school pol who was a regular, upbeat guy. The world could use more like him.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
22. I got wise to who Humphrey was later on.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:54 AM
Feb 2019

When I was 15, he even sponsored me for a two week stint as a summer replacement Senate Page, so the guys who did that job year round could go home for a couple of weeks. By that time, I was 15, and knew what the hell was going on. Chatting with Bobby Kennedy in the halls of the Senate (he and my dad were friends), stuff like that. Talk about being in the middle of it!

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
33. DFW you have the best stories
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:53 AM
Feb 2019

I can't imagine chatting with RFK and Groucho telling you to "Get Lost" had me snorting my coffee this morning!

DFW

(54,408 posts)
39. Chatting with RFK wasn't as exotic as it might seem if you know the background
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:22 AM
Feb 2019

My dad was a long-term (as in 50 years!) Washington correspondent for a one-horse town in upstate New York. He opened up shop in DC in 1950 when he was 28. As the DC scene grew, his work plus his connections from his parents led him to know LOTS of people. A cousin of his was Caroline Kennedy's tutor in the JFK White House. My brother and I had brunch with her and her husband (who is 91 and looks 71) last month in DC. He is a veteran of the Selma march and the whole 1960s civil rights campaign.

Since my dad's paper was in New York State, and he had been in DC forever, he had to know all members of the New York delegation to Congress (of both parties) as well as the governor and the Canadian Ambassador. I once played in a rock band as a teenager in DC with the son of the Canadian ambassador, and we used to rehearse in the Canadian Embassy Residence with unlimited (leftover) filet mignon and Canada Dry (of course!) soft drinks. Talk about stories! We called our band "The CLockwork Orange" three years before the film came out (we all had read the book), and got trashed for our "screwy name." Just ahead of our time, that's all! Anyway, for a couple of years, Joe II and Bobby junior were my schoolmates in DC. I freaked out Bobby Junior one time when I called in to his Ring of Fire show and said "Hi Bobby, it's been a long time."

As for Groucho, we can laugh about it now. To an 8 year old kid, it was close to devastating!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Wow. Look like you date back to the time men were dressing their hair with motor oil.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:37 AM
Feb 2019


Always fun reading your recollections of things that you have seen and done though.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. What is that. I assume some type of shave cream?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019

The name is interesting, what main ingredients did it have in it?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. I missed the actual commercials, but kids in school used to say that jingle for a long time.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:03 PM
Feb 2019

I dared not come to school with wet hair. Like all times, there were a lot of fun stuff among some societal bad stuff, but we survive and move on.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
47. Had to get my father-in-law to stop going around with combed wet hair
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

that naturally air-dried. Put him on silver shampoo, pro haircut, blow drying, spritz of finishing hairspray.

He would lapse back into old routine and momma-in-law would get after him. 😄



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
72. I am a really big fan of naturally drying hair.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:55 PM
Feb 2019

Blow driers damage hair like you won't believe. I see it regularly here in Florida with the sun and blow drying, women in their twenties and often teens have dead looking hair (actually once above the scalp surface, hair IS dead, but even that hair should have shine to it, not here in Florida unless a woman return the shine through salon appointments).

Personally, I only shampoo once per week and do a cold water rinse through on other days. Most people should do that, use a clean towel to pat dry their hair, then let it air dry, then final style it.

I can see a problem if your dad has very thick hair follicle counts, that hair takes longer to air dry. Maybe having him wear a shower cap is better.

Sorry for the aside, I just am no fan of blow drying hair.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
74. His hair was pretty short so blow drying only lasted minimal time.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:04 PM
Feb 2019

I cut his hair and got him all the necessary stuff to get it done. He had lots of compliments.

Yeah, blow drying can wreak havoc. Also any chemical processes. It takes a balance.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. True. But the weather there is summer kicks ass.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:39 AM
Feb 2019

Same complaint about Miami, a person can't spend every minute on the beaches.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Milwaukee
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:41 AM
Feb 2019

I don't see that they have a choice. I understand:

MILWAUKEE: Still seen as the odds-on favorite, the midsize city has some organizers concerned about its ability to house the influx of people during the three-day event.


but you basically just start working your way down the coast towards Chicago. What they ought to do is bring in some Cruise ship or something for the delegates.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
40. I'm guessing you weren't at Denver when Obama was nominated
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

I've never been to so many educational seminars in one week. Nonstop. Meetings with Amy Goodman, John Nichols, John Conyers, Henry Waxman, Greg Palast, Joe Biden, Dan Rather (met DU's Hissyspit at that one!), and LONG list of etc. Ran into Ralph Nader, but had no interest in hearing what he had to say.

Party? I was at exactly one of them, but was practically falling asleep, I was so tired from attending all the important stuff. I didn't last long.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
54. It's all in the layering
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:56 PM
Feb 2019

You START with breakfast policy wonk sessions; move on to lunch receptions, late afternoon fundraisers, evening viewing events (if you don't have dogtags) and then after-hour parties.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
70. If there were after-hour parties in Denver
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:29 AM
Feb 2019

They were well after MY hours. At 11PM I was exhausted after every single 14 hour day.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. I wondered about that.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:42 AM
Feb 2019

How far is democratic stronghold Dane County from Milwaukee? I like the beer city, even though I think beer is pee.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
8. Wait, hurricanes are NOT the top concern with Houston, a city devastated by one recently???
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:09 AM
Feb 2019


Houston, Miami etc should be avoided. No need to take that risk.

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
59. Aren't conventions in the summer?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:59 PM
Feb 2019

We don't worry about hurricanes until late August, early September. And even then, it's essentially a ten-year occurrence.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. I know! I was thinking Philly or Minneapolis.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:06 AM
Feb 2019

Definitely someplace cooler in the summer. Or even Boston. Ok, I'm a little biased with that selection, but we would be a great choice!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
26. It would be fun if it were here! But I know we're both in blue states
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:18 AM
Feb 2019

that everyone seems to take for granted.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
60. But what other cities bid? The four (including Denver till it backed out) were the finalists.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:13 PM
Feb 2019

I wonder what cities the DNC decided against.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
13. I'm in Miami but I'd say pick Milwaukee
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:04 AM
Feb 2019

Humidity is no problem for me. But outsiders invariably can't handle it and make related remarks.

Mid-July is not peak of hurricane season. In fact, we basically don't start thinking about hurricanes here until August nowadays, and mostly in September.

Milwaukee simply makes the most sense. Miamians won't care that the convention was here anyway. If the Democratic committees want to shore up Florida they need to prioritize it all year long, and not attempt a cheap fix via convention.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
29. Yeah, the heat and humidity don't bother
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:40 AM
Feb 2019

me, either.. in fact I like it.

But, I hear a lot of peeps complaining about it when it's happening here.. so best not, too

Good advice about Florida, AD.. or any place we go.

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
18. Milwaukee...we have a better shot at winning Wisconsin than Florida in 2020...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:24 AM
Feb 2019

FL is gonna be slog for us, but WI is a state we can win back more easily. Let's put DNC resources there and let our nominee have the local media coverage spotlight for a winnable state.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
64. interesting
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:35 PM
Feb 2019

I wonder why they ALWAYS choose a battleground state? San Francisco would be nice I'm sure but pretty sure we don't need any momentum in California.

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
67. It sure helped Obama win Colorado in 2008 when Colorado wasn't so blue
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:55 PM
Feb 2019

Colorado was a swing state and that convention definitely helped Obama cement his ground operation in the state. They were able to get so many new volunteers, etc. Also, the local media coverage can't be ignored. We can do the same thing for WI in 2020.

71. Agreed - this idea of picking battleground states seems to have started with
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:25 AM
Feb 2019

Obama in 2008 because if you look at past convention sites before that (listed below are the sites since 1932), it appears they used to generally just pick the place they felt was best (and it's obvious Chicago was their favorite before 1968):

Chicago - 1932, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1956, 1968, 1996
Philadelphia - 1936, 1948, 2016
Los Angeles - 1960, 2000
Atlantic City - 1964
Miami - 1972
New York - 1976, 1980, 1992
San Francisco - 1984
Atlanta - 1988
Boston - 2004
Denver - 2008
Charlotte - 2012

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
27. I agree that it has to be Milwaukee, but...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:18 AM
Feb 2019

Having been there a few times on business, I've never been impressed with downtown and the hotel selection. And to be honest, for me to be interested in going to the convention, I'd want swanky amenities, good restaurants, plenty of bars in walking distance of everything, and good weather. I'd probably only go on the convention floor for the vote and the acceptance speech. I'd have no interest wearing funny hats and face painting to listen to an endless parade of party up-and-comers, outgoing party giants, and "everyday" American suffering through something the presidential candidate is supposedly going to fix.

Just seems to me the conventions dont really serve a useful purpose.

So...I guess I'm not a convention kind of guy! Lol

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
49. Milwaukee will always be there for future conventions. But coming to Houston right now...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:38 PM
Feb 2019

is perfect, what with our traditionally high serial killer headcount in ebb.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
77. I think it should be Milwaukee.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:03 PM
Feb 2019

It's the perfect fit for the type of election we'll need to run in 2020. Blue collar. Midwest. Large black population (40% black). We need Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania to win in 2020 - three states NO Democrat has any business losing.

We're still an election cycle or two out from flipping Texas and I'm not sure Miami brings anything to the table because I'm convinced Florida is too far gone.

Milwaukee would be a fantastic choice.

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