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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:48 AM Feb 2019

The first hint:

When we were told that the Russians were messing with our elections, we expected Donald Trump to do what any President would do under the circumstances: warn the Russians and give our Intelligence agencies all the help they would need to get to the bottom of it.

But, surprisingly and shockingly, Donald Trump did the exact opposite. He called it a "hoax". He praised Russia and Putin!

He obstructed the investigation, to find out about the Russian interference, the entire way.

What the hell was an average American supposed to think?

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The first hint: (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2019 OP
I just wish the "Average" American WOULD think. walkingman Feb 2019 #1
+1 CaptainTruth Feb 2019 #8
The "average" American does think. Unfortunately, LibDemAlways Feb 2019 #10
Agreed - I was just looking at the lastest school rankings in the states. The issue becomes apparent walkingman Feb 2019 #14
The only downside to a well-educated nation... johnnyfins Feb 2019 #21
I'm in California and currently a LibDemAlways Feb 2019 #24
Guess who allowed this . . . Iliyah Feb 2019 #2
At every step of the way. Either by their silence, Golden Raisin Feb 2019 #3
26% of voting American's don't have the capacity to form intelligent independent thought. ffr Feb 2019 #4
K&R Kurt V. Feb 2019 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #6
Lets not forget that McConnell also knew, and I have to think that Ryan also knew Perseus Feb 2019 #11
Both lyinryan and mcturtle were briefed 2naSalit Feb 2019 #17
Ryan was supposed to be taking a job where his brother works, paying him a million dollars a year. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #23
The only way to restore faith in the system infullview Feb 2019 #7
surprisingly and shockingly???? Perseus Feb 2019 #9
Putin's puppet believes Vlad over our country's intel services keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #12
They should have thought DownriverDem Feb 2019 #13
Recently downgraded the department that is supposed to monitor foreign interference in wiggs Feb 2019 #15
+1 2naSalit Feb 2019 #18
Then he fired Comey and invited the Russians into the White House. lutherj Feb 2019 #16
And idiot's face when the 2naSalit Feb 2019 #19
Obviously the average American should think... Kablooie Feb 2019 #20
not a surprise or shock to those who were paying attention... debsy Feb 2019 #22

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
10. The "average" American does think. Unfortunately,
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:11 PM
Feb 2019

what he or she thinks about pretty much exclusively is sports, trash tv, video games, junk food, etc. We live in a nation in which that average person can name several Kardashians but zero Supreme Court Justices...and that lack of knowledge is worn as a badge of honor.

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
14. Agreed - I was just looking at the lastest school rankings in the states. The issue becomes apparent
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:38 PM
Feb 2019

if you compare states. I'll use my state,Texas, which ranks 43rd overall. The top 5 are all blue states, the bottom 5 are all red states and rankings based upon math, reading, etc. the performance holds true. The issue has got to be funding for education.

I know Texas simply does not adequately fund education and hasn't for decades. The are much more interested in cutting taxes than anything else. I think there is no downside to a well-educated nation. More important than any military weapon, than a tax cut, and especially more important than a damn wall.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
21. The only downside to a well-educated nation...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:47 PM
Feb 2019

...is the threat that it poses to the lying political class that exists by bullshitting said nation

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
24. I'm in California and currently a
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:12 PM
Feb 2019

substitute teacher in a "blue ribbon" district. Schools are underfunded here, too, but there is plenty of money for exorbitant salaries for administrators....just as in any other industry. I make $120 a day as a sub and have zero benefits. The Superintendent pulls in close to $300K a year plus generous benefits. Imagine if some of that money was put into actually educating the kids.

As an insider, I can attest that at least some of the reason for an uneducated, indifferent citizenry is that schools are teaching to the test. What we used to call "current events" are never mentioned because there is no room in a curriculum exclusively devoted to preparing for end of the year standardized testing. Guarantee graduating high school seniors have no idea who the current Governor of the state is unless they happen to hear it at home. And they certainly don't know anything about his stand on issues or what the important issues are.

More and more I am in classrooms in which each student's head is buried in a laptop which functions as a surrogate teacher. Behavior is generally terrible. Kids get up and wander around at will, and many no longer sit at desks. There are elementary classrooms in which kids sit on bouncy balls. I kid you not.

No wonder college professors bemoan the arrival of students who can barely read and write.

The entire system is broken.

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
3. At every step of the way. Either by their silence,
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

or worse, actively aiding and abetting. As horrendous as Trump is, the complicit Republican Congress (and Party) are as bad or worse.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
4. 26% of voting American's don't have the capacity to form intelligent independent thought.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:33 AM
Feb 2019

That in mind, the average is skewed and democracy will fail.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. Lets not forget that McConnell also knew, and I have to think that Ryan also knew
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:12 PM
Feb 2019

The fact that a power hungry ass like Ryan has vanished into the sunset with so much silence is very telling to me. He has disappeared quite conveniently, I just hope Muller has the goods on him too.

Someone may come out with a "Where is Ryan" book.

Silence during and now more than ever...he doesn't want people to talk about him...all the things he knows, all the things he has been involved in, and he must recognize that he has been a total failure, I have to think there must be some shame knowing he failed...who knows, I always wonder if republicans feel shame, if that is a feeling they ever experience.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
17. Both lyinryan and mcturtle were briefed
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:14 PM
Feb 2019

as members of the Gang of 8*(*20+) and knew about this long ago. They chose to protect -45 AND obstruct justice in a conspiracy to obstruct, aid and abet... period. If you have been watching the McCabe interviews the past day or so, he talks about this. Check the Video & Multimedia page here at DU and watch some of the videos posted. All are good, take your pick of interviewers.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
23. Ryan was supposed to be taking a job where his brother works, paying him a million dollars a year.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:58 PM
Feb 2019

I don't know the firm's name.

infullview

(981 posts)
7. The only way to restore faith in the system
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:47 AM
Feb 2019

will be if he's pilloried and perp walked on national television.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. surprisingly and shockingly????
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:03 PM
Feb 2019

I was not surprised or shocked by the actions of the orange buffoon, as a matter of fact, I am no longer shocked, surprised by anything any republican does or say, how can anyone be when they have been at it for so many years?

lutherj

(2,496 posts)
16. Then he fired Comey and invited the Russians into the White House.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:12 PM
Feb 2019

Remember Lavrov getting sassy with Andrea Mitchell? What smug bunch of bastards. It was like Hitler dancing in Paris.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
19. And idiot's face when the
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:16 PM
Feb 2019

foreigners were there is a study in some things that I don't want to mention online!

debsy

(530 posts)
22. not a surprise or shock to those who were paying attention...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:50 PM
Feb 2019

I and many others totally anticipated his actions and we've been fairly consistently correct. Scott Pelley claiming Andrew McCabe's interview was "astonishing" is totally ridiculous. People (including Malcolm Nance and others) have been ringing the five alarm fire bells for years now but nobody did anything. The Repukes have been actively dismantling our democracy since 1998 when they impeached Clinton, perhaps even before. We had a chance to change things when the DEMs had control of the HR, senate, and presidency under Obama but they stuck to the rules in an effort to be fair and consider everyone. The rebukes consider no one outside their sphere of ideology.

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