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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:49 PM Feb 2019

IMO, due to her age AOC needs to build up Senator from New York, Charles Schumer

so he has enough pack money to retire early and support AOC to win the remainder of his senate seat so that she follows Obama path to the white house.

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IMO, due to her age AOC needs to build up Senator from New York, Charles Schumer (Original Post) CK_John Feb 2019 OP
I hope not. murielm99 Feb 2019 #1
... sheshe2 Feb 2019 #2
LOL. Those sudden dust storms are something, aren't they? nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #18
Disagree. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #3
As supporting a section of NYC vs a whole state would be better. CK_John Feb 2019 #7
No. As... learning how to legislate within the House is a good starting point. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #8
Oh FFS! Obama was being a community activist when he was her age. madinmaryland Feb 2019 #4
Without any experience? Where do you get these thoughts? wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #5
Kamala Harris is the current DU favorite with two years experience in congress. n/t Glamrock Feb 2019 #27
...and 8 years as AG in California tinrobot Feb 2019 #29
KH has a long resume in state and local politics radius777 Feb 2019 #30
True Glamrock Feb 2019 #31
Any statewide office of a large state like CA or NY radius777 Feb 2019 #33
Whikle I realize that NY and Ca residents like to believe that Glamrock Feb 2019 #34
Everything you said here about Harris will be rebutted successfully before the end of the primaries wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #36
Funny how people trash certain politicians for being in Washington too ong EffieBlack Feb 2019 #38
You mean spend 6 years in the state legislature whistler162 Feb 2019 #6
Very few come from the House. CK_John Feb 2019 #10
She is a rare talent. watoos Feb 2019 #9
Can I Have Some Me. Feb 2019 #11
Absolutely watoos Feb 2019 #15
... Me. Feb 2019 #21
Everybody doesnt need to be president immediately. We need good people in the trenches too. Afromania Feb 2019 #12
She's not old enough to be president watoos Feb 2019 #13
I know that, even then she doesn't need to be President the moment she's old enough. Afromania Feb 2019 #35
"Have enough pack [sic] money to retire early" lapucelle Feb 2019 #14
You know what it means. It was an insulting comment that implied Schumer is corrupt. Blue_true Feb 2019 #19
Not sure. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #22
I was hoping the OP might explain. I hope he's not alleging corruption. lapucelle Feb 2019 #24
WUT maxsolomon Feb 2019 #16
Yes! All New York politicians should offer her their seat R B Garr Feb 2019 #17
LOL. Good point. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #20
;) sheshe2 Feb 2019 #23
AOC could never win statewide office in NY radius777 Feb 2019 #25
...and to add to your point, Obama was a rockstar... and a centrist like Cuomo and James. In It to Win It Feb 2019 #37
Huh? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #26
Maybe let her accomplish something besides winning one election before making her POTUS krawhitham Feb 2019 #28
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #32

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
3. Disagree.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:55 PM
Feb 2019

She has had some very good moments and some not so good. She is fine where she is and seems likely to learn how things are done, but at the same time learn to create partnerships to accomplish things.

She is not the savior of anything. She is a new passionate and popular representative who will hopefully have a good run representing the people of her district and then maybe move on to more powerful positions.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
8. No. As... learning how to legislate within the House is a good starting point.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:05 PM
Feb 2019

She is fine where she is for now. If she is as good as people keep saying, then she will become the Senator for New York and maybe even the President.

I have no problem with that path at all. I do have a problem with people anointing anyone after only a month or two in Congress.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
4. Oh FFS! Obama was being a community activist when he was her age.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:57 PM
Feb 2019

He was elected to a national office when he was in his early 40’s. Give her time to develop and build coalitions. She may well be a very impressive politician, but it takes time.

For that matter, Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas for 12 years before becoming president at the age of 46.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
30. KH has a long resume in state and local politics
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:04 AM
Feb 2019

before becoming US senator she was the San Francisco DA and then California AG, which are very high profile posts that carry alot of responsibility.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
31. True
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:08 AM
Feb 2019

but not in national politics. I mean if you can name me a President who's primary experience was DA or AG, I'm all ears.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
33. Any statewide office of a large state like CA or NY
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:31 AM
Feb 2019

is a de facto national position.

Obama and KH similarly have two years of US Senatorial experience. The difference is KH has a much stronger resume prior to that.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
34. Whikle I realize that NY and Ca residents like to believe that
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:59 AM
Feb 2019

and I'm not saying youre wrong, I'm still waiting to be informed of a President who's primary experience was DA or AG. Not trying to be insulting nor am I saying AOC is ready to be President either. But the rest of the country, or shit, just the 7 0r 8 states I live and work in ain't gonna see that as de facto anything. That's the reality in MI, OH, KY, IL, WI, PA, IN, and MO. Those are at least three states we lost the last election in.

And while I agree Obama was inexperienced as far as what we all collectively judge, myself included, he had a once in a generation motivational speaking style that KH doesn't possess. If she had, this forum would have been lit up with her praise after her prebuttal to the state of the union. Instead it was all Abrams and Sanders. Crickets for Harris. I know. I posted all three. I got literally one response for Harris.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
36. Everything you said here about Harris will be rebutted successfully before the end of the primaries
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:54 AM
Feb 2019

My guess is Harris will be our nominee.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
38. Funny how people trash certain politicians for being in Washington too ong
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 10:34 AM
Feb 2019

and dismiss their time in Washington as just being part of a swamp. But then they'll turn around and trash certain others for NOT being in Washington long enough and dismiss their local and statewide experience as too small time to be taken seriously.

There's a reason we've elected many more state executives than federal legislators as presidents in the past century...

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
9. She is a rare talent.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:08 PM
Feb 2019

The right fears her for a reason. I wish we had 200 more Reps just like her.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. You know what it means. It was an insulting comment that implied Schumer is corrupt.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:08 PM
Feb 2019

Just another Justice Democrats style attack on a democratic politician.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
17. Yes! All New York politicians should offer her their seat
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:51 PM
Feb 2019

and then go into hiding as she chooses which one to select as she waits for the White House.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
25. AOC could never win statewide office in NY
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:44 AM
Feb 2019

which is a blue but ideologically center-left state that Gov Cuomo (as well as AG Tish James) just won in a landslide despite aggressive challenges from the left.

AOC's appeal is limited strictly to progressives, whereas Obama was a rockstar w/wide appeal.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
26. Huh?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:52 AM
Feb 2019

I don't live in New York so any opinion I might have about her electability to the Senate is meaningless.

But it's clear to the most obvious casual observer that she's incredibly sharp and has an instinctive understanding of a lot of things.

I sincerely hope I get to vote for her for President at some point down the road.

Keep in mind she's some nine years away from being old enough to run. That's a long nine years.

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