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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor me, the biggest surprise in today's hearings had nothing to do with Cohen or Trump.
It was the revelation that Elijah Cummings and Mark Meadows are close personal friends.
That made me feel good. Made me feel more kindly toward Meadows. Not his politics, but the man. This sort of seemingly incongruous relationship between two highly partisan politicians was far more common when comity was the way the Congress worked. Things were no less hard fought and partisan, but it wasn't based in pure meanness as it is today.
Yup. That revelation made me feel good. Don't take that as any sort of endorsement of anything political about Meadows; we could not get farther apart. I'm just glad for the rare hint of humanity.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)of when PRESIDENT OBAMA and Speaker John Boehner were good buds - perhaps just sharing a smoke, but still..............
monmouth4
(9,705 posts)retirement. It was well done and they both had fun..
malaise
(269,004 posts)he can't be a racist - Hmmmmmmmmm!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)What I have come to believe is that people may have hard racial feelings toward a stranger of another race, but not a relative that is at least half that other race (in the case of most African Americans, if they have a child with a person that is white (<90%), the child will likely be mostly White (<50%) because most AA that descended from slaves are already mixed). I think Meadows sees his nieces and nephews at family functions and they are not others, they are family, so his harder racial feelings get set aside.
malaise
(269,004 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)or ethnicity their perceptions may begin to change. The change may be incremental and not a complete reversal, but this is why it's important to note that prejudices can go away when people who live, work, befriend the "others" begin to see that most humans are more alike on a very basic level than they are different.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)"It's stupid to hate people for the color of their skin, when if you spend just five minutes talking to them, you'll find plenty of valid reasons to hate them."
Racism viewed through the eyes of a misanthrope.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)He was once a passionate, outspoken (of course, it's Dennis Miller) advocate for liberals and liberal policy. His views were always tinted with wry humor and more than a little cynicism, but he once made no bones about the fact that it's conservatives who are the bad guys.
He did a hard-turn to the right after 9/11, and never came back. I shouldn't have been surprised by that; my dad did the same thing, although I was relieved to learn before he died in 2009 that he had cast his last Presidential vote ever for Barack Obama.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... to protect him... Much like Nichole Wallace had when she found out Russians were involved with electing Red Don
Miller never came back around
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Very few people know this, BUT I have blah blah
Why few people? And why use the word BUT instead of the word THAT?
JI7
(89,249 posts)campaigning for segregation and other racist policy.
PatSeg
(47,442 posts)A really odd pair!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I heard accounts that he was always there with a shoulder for Ted to lean on when needed. Bizzarre given that they were polar opposites politically.
PatSeg
(47,442 posts)when Kennedy died.
Yeah, couldn't have been more opposite in every way.
When I saw Orrin Hatch praising Trump as the "greatest president", all I could think is "What would Ted say?" I probably said out loud to the TV screen at the time!
murielm99
(30,741 posts)Hatch got Teddy to join AA.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...Meadows is a pos.
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Hes wise and good
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...that Cummings went out of his way at the end of the hearing to say Meadows is "one of his best friends".
This gesture lends weight to Meadows' so-called point---(I paraphrase)--'Cohen is lying about Trump's racism 'cuz look, he hired this here Black Woman"---and by extension so did Cohen lie about many things. It helps paint Cohen as a liar when he said Trump is a cheat, a con and ---a racist. We all know he is!
Meadows, as I understand it is an ardent Trump supporter. I don't understand friendships like this--given that Trump is a demonstrated racist and if Meadows supports him.....that's a problem. I might also see the humanity in him but would never ever be his "best friend" nor undercut a Black Woman who called him out.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)They view their counterparts across the aisle as basically decent human beings with differences in opinion. That may have been the case in the past, but not any longer. The GOP actively works against representative government. They believe & have pushed policies that prove this belief, that only some people deserve to vote - mostly white, rich people. The dems need to see the GOP as the enemy & not just colleagues with a different opinion. This is a fight for a government of, by, & for the People.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)They've given us plenty of evidence that they want to select their own voters and will do what it takes to gain and keep power.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)when she was commenting, so I don't understand why he took it so personally unless----. Also, why did he have to mention that so few people know he has a racially mixed family?
I wonder how the situation would have finished up with a GOP chairperson. Thank you, Mr. Cummings!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)He's not a good man.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)From Meadows to know the woman should have never apologized. He just proved what a jerk he is, but so was the woman who allowed herself to be used.
Sorry,for me wrong is who ever commits the wrong.
JI7
(89,249 posts)he is.