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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe US/NK summit was a complete failure.
Not only was it a failure, but The United States was played into dropping a full accounting of NK's nuke program.
We came away with less than we showed up with.
There is no way to spin this.
This should be a major issue in 2020. Trump is incapable of conducting foreign policy. And he is surrounded by people who are also incompetent.
Michael Cohen was correct when he warned republicans that they will face a similar fate to what happened to him. Are you listening Mike Pompeo?
underpants
(182,826 posts)oasis
(49,388 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)Do not forget about FOX News. They are likely going to attempt to spin it by claiming that President Obama would have lifted the sanctions without getting the denuclearization. They will likely say that Donald Trump showed strength by walking away when Kim Jong Un was not willing to give up his nuclear weapons. Remember, after the first summit they were claiming that the difference between a Trump-Kim meeting and an Obama-Kim meeting, that never happened, was that Trump went into the summit with signals of strength. I did not see how Trump went into the first summit with any signs of strength.
oasis
(49,388 posts)on today's "Morning Joe".
billh58
(6,635 posts)Not only FAUX Snooze, but an ABC "news analyst:"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fast-chairman-kim-hanoi-summit-disappoints-trump-shines/story?id=61378994&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_hero_related
Spin at its finest...
vlyons
(10,252 posts)from Cohen's testimony. Another chance for Trump to hog the limelight. No need to actually ACCOMPLISH anything. The only requirement was for Trump to pose and posture. He seems to think that a photo of him and Kim before a bunch of flags will look great on the front page of the NYTimes.
I said before he left for VN that it would be just another Trump butt show. And so it was.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)He got international diplomatic recognition.
He gets to stay in power for a few more years.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The man just simply knows it all.......
A true legend in his own mind.
Art of the Deal - He doesn't have a clue how to "deal" without threatening people like Cohen mentioned in the hearings. He's a malignant narcissist and their idea of a deal is "my way or else".
He's a loser and a fraud and has always been. I can't wrap my mind around why he was allowed to run his scams for so many decades without the state of New York prosecuting him.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Was again played by both Kim and putin again showing how bad a diplomat and unprepared he was going into this. Its wasn't just a failure, it was a total embarrassment to this country. Him giving kim credibility and exposure shows how stupid he really is.
gademocrat7
(10,659 posts)agincourt
(1,996 posts)just like the last summit. "He saved the world from WWIII" to his baaing sheeple base or a bone to progressive awokeists who are supposed be leftist revolutionaries but only rail against Democrats and liberals while being silent or enabling to the Trump voters.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)testimony or the NK summit? I am assuming this was just a distraction. But the chaos level has been so high I can't keep up.
mia
(8,361 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)
Cohen was initially scheduled to testify in front of the committee on February 7, but that appearance was canceled by Cohen and his legal team, who cited "threats against his family" after Trump and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, made public remarks concerning Cohen's father-in-law.
Cohen also later canceled planned closed-door testimony in front of the House and Senate Intelligence committees.
"I am pleased to announce that Michael Cohen's public testimony before the Oversight Committee is back on, despite efforts by some to intimidate his family members and prevent him from appearing," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat who is chairman of the committee, in a statement on Wednesday.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)For Trump.
He even admitted watching as much of the hearing as he could.
I bet Kim was laughing at him.
Jordan lied, too. Saying this was the first hearing. Elijah corrected that lie. Both Jordan and Meadows came off looking like fools. Both seem to thnk if they shout that will work.
Then Cohen quietly told them they would end up like him!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)taking notes from Lindsey Graham? Yell, even swear, and talk over everyone to get attention. THEN go golfing with Agent Orange. I wonder how many patents tRump secured for his daughter/wife from this farce of a "summit"?
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)From the beginning they were there to disrupt not serve.
padah513
(2,503 posts)We're gonna learn that it was Kim who walked away and not the other way around. Talk about being a jilted lover.
JI7
(89,250 posts)CharleyDog
(757 posts)and it just rings true that it was probably Kim who walked. Kim said drop sanctions, and when it wasn't forthcoming, he said fine, we're done.
JI7
(89,250 posts)people said about north korea.
i think putin is the reason he turned around from all the "rocket man" talk to what we saw after.
Farmer-Rick
(10,175 posts)If it looks like Traitor Trump is going to jail, he needs an escape route. I think that very little man in Russia who has 15 girl friends and wives living in elaborate estates through out Russia, wants Trump in Russia when he explodes.
There is probably another tax payer funded Russian estate little man Putin can stash Trump and maybe even the naked first lady and her poor white trashy family.
Polly Hennessey
(6,798 posts)in Russia. Who would want Orange Man. He might be the modern version of A Man Without A Country. I just want him, his icky children, and his awful wife to go away - far away.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)him California, Kim Jong un said they are just so rowdy out there and too hard to keep under control so he would not be interested.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)oasis
(49,388 posts)I guess lowering the standards for Trump will now be THE standard on "Morning Joe".
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)The bar is so low that avoiding disaster is considered a success?
How about we quit courting disaster and do the hard work that the maligned "Deep State" was built for?
oasis
(49,388 posts)He was critical of the lack of preparations for the meeting by the U.S. team. Haass made a brief appearance earlier on MSNBC's "Morning Joe".
They_Live
(3,233 posts)for this "historic" photo op.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)In order to get Kim to agree. That's right, give up your biggest bargaining chip (full accounting of nuclear program) in exchange for getting Kim's signature on a document. So, yes, we came away with less than we showed up with. Spin this Lindsey.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)What do you mean by saying "The United States was played into dropping a full accounting of NK's nuke program.". I saw on the news this morning that Donald Trump told Kim Jong Un that the United States knew about certain nuclear development sites. Is that what you are talking about? Are you talking about the press conference when Trump stated that he surprised Kim when he told him that the United States knew about some of his secret sites?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think that's what Cohen was referring to. Or is Pompeo doing some illegal things?
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)I like Presidents that dont get shot down in Vietnam. Karma dotard. Karma.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)why do I try?