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brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:37 PM Feb 2019

Here's where Lightfoot and Preckwinkle stand on transportation issues (Chicago)

Whoever ends up winning the mayoral runoff election on April 2, Elon Musk’s plan to build an underground express transit link from downtown to O’Hare Airport is probably dead.

Former federal prosecutor Lori Lightfoot and Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle will face each other in the runoff — but neither has embraced the technology billionaire’s proposal.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel has been enthusiastic about Musk’s $1 billion plan to dig a hole from the Loop to O’Hare and run passenger vehicles that go more than 100 mph. The Chicago Infrastructure Trust, the organization charged with negotiating the contract on behalf of the city, has not announced a contract with Musk, who had promised to pay all costs. An Emanuel spokeswoman said Wednesday there were no updates.

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Preckwinkle and Lightfoot agree on several transportation issues. Both support the expansion of the CTA Red Line from 95th Street to 130th Street. Both also expressed support for the increased use of the Metra Electric line to increase access to transit on the South Side.

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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
1. good what was that for? an elite express? We have a CTA line that starts at Ohare, is in a terminal
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

and goes to the center of downtown Chicago. No,the private disruption is not worth the novelty and the travel time saved even if paid for imo
https://www.transitchicago.com/airports/

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
2. Elite isn't quite the right word...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:10 PM
Feb 2019

I met with the Chicago Infrastructure Trust about this last year. The goal is to have both an express service (targeted towards business) and a local service, similar to London and Tokyo. The underlying goals of the Musk project were to keep the fare equivalent to a taxi trip.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
3. A taxi from ohare to downtown is about 30 bucks or so.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:32 PM
Feb 2019

If Elon musk and his demographic don't mind rubbing elbows with the unwashed masses, they can take the Blue Line for $2.75.

Maybe they can buy Northerly Island and rebuild Meigs, but just make it a helicopter pad.

It takes a while to get downtown from Midway, too.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
4. One of the arguments I was given was that ridership on the Blue Line is increasing...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:50 PM
Feb 2019

...making it less practical for Airport service.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
5. I do see more ohare riders during rush hour than say 10 years ago.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 03:20 PM
Feb 2019

And they often carry a lot of luggage with them, crowding the cars for regular commuters. But it's only for about 40 minutes if you get on near the Ohare end. You stand for a bit. It's no biggie. I think there may be more ohare riders because the cost of a cab, or an Uber even, is more than it's worth to many.

Plus I think a billion is optimistic. Chicago has a lot of already in place underground infrastructure. There is no virgin right of way to be had.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
7. Not everyone taking the Blue Line from O'Hare is heading downtown,
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

And not everyone heading to O'Hare starts downtown.

It's a cool idea, but recent (2014) estimates for digging a tunnel 1/3 the length (from Staten to Manhattan) were about $1.75B. So you're talking potentially $5B + just for the tunnel. Elon Musk might be able to do it cheaper, but 20% of the cost is optimistic enough to warrant skepticism. And the costs only go up for every station you create. I don't think you could get away with making an almost 15 mile tunnel without at least one intermediate stop--probably at Logan's Square and with a connecting pedestrian tunnel to the Blue Line.

I think Rahm's support of the project was rhetorical for the most part.

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