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grumpyduck

(6,240 posts) Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:48 PM Feb 2019

"If he goes down, we're going down with him."

I coudn't get myself to watch the Cohen hearings, or even to read all that much about them. I'm just overloaded and sick of the whole thing.

But, from the little I read just now about the Republican strategy of discrediting Cohen instead of defending T, and the words used, and the drama, I get this sneaky feeling that some of these people must be thinking, "Shit, if T goes down, we're all going down with him." Discrediting a witness is an old courtroom trick used to remove attention from potentially damaging testimony. Magicians call it misdirection.

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"If he goes down, we're going down with him." (Original Post) grumpyduck Feb 2019 OP

Republicans are lousy magicians C_U_L8R Feb 2019 #1

I'm sick of the drama & the lies & the destruction of our institutions, too. CrispyQ Feb 2019 #2

That's why Windy City Charlie Feb 2019 #3

From Joyce Vance on MSNBC Thunderbeast Feb 2019 #4

So true. grumpyduck Feb 2019 #5

Your getting a hypothetical look at what a Senate trial would look like ooky Feb 2019 #6

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)

1. Republicans are lousy magicians

Reply to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:51 PM

Feb 2019

Their misdirection totally backfired and just re-emphasized the fact that Trump paid Cohen to do all this illicit stuff.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)

2. I'm sick of the drama & the lies & the destruction of our institutions, too.

Reply to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:13 PM

Feb 2019

Maybe this will help?

Toons

Some of our best cartoonists (& we have a lot of them!), show perfectly what you just stated: "If he goes down, we're going down with him."

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)

3. That's why

Reply to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:18 PM

Feb 2019

The talking point Wednesday became the "timing" of Cohen's appearance. Prior to that, they thought they were going to eat Cohen alive and discredit him. But when they couldn't and noticed Cohen was being credible, they suddenly started complaining about Cohen's appearance being the same day as Trump's meeting with Kim.

Thunderbeast

(3,414 posts)

4. From Joyce Vance on MSNBC

Reply to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:24 PM

Feb 2019

Lawyers Creed:

"When the truth is on your side, pound on the truth.

When the law is on your side, pound on the law.

When neither is on your side, POUND ON THE TABLE!"

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)

5. So true.

Reply to Thunderbeast (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:51 PM

Feb 2019

ooky

(8,923 posts)

6. Your getting a hypothetical look at what a Senate trial would look like

Reply to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 02:57 PM

Feb 2019

if the House were to impeach him tomorrow.

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