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RNC chair: The internet came from capitalism, not the government (Original Post) JonLP24 Feb 2019 OP
Yet another.... mbusby Feb 2019 #1
republican lies are toxic for America Achilleaze Feb 2019 #44
I hope someone educated her. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #2
Isn't she related to Mitt Romney? LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #3
Yupper, Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #5
Yes. She is mittens niece. Raster Feb 2019 #6
She used to use her maiden name all the time, but then suddenly stopped. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #10
I used to think it was at the request of Trump..... Pachamama Mar 2019 #52
Worse, it was government in cooperation with elitist university people unblock Feb 2019 #4
The same elitists university people trying to bilk the world out of that sweet Yavin4 Feb 2019 #7
+1,394,228 And we all know that it wasn't any fundie universities either. TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #35
And, of course, the whole modern computer was largely create and advanced through similar partnering unblock Feb 2019 #8
And ironically, the whole plot was hatched in a genuine 'beer garden'. Brother Buzz Feb 2019 #18
Cool! unblock Feb 2019 #31
that timeline is off by years, by August 1976, Queen Elizabeth II had already sent an e-mail Celerity Feb 2019 #45
It's all about the dough Brother Buzz Feb 2019 #49
Internet vs Arpanet CloudWatcher Mar 2019 #53
This is also a person that doesn't believe in climate change and gun control Renew Deal Feb 2019 #9
Capitalism brought us Generic Other Feb 2019 #11
yup gopiscrap Feb 2019 #19
Their ignorance is boundless as the Universe, isn't it. Wow. n/t TygrBright Feb 2019 #12
Not deserved but... FormerOstrich Feb 2019 #13
www was government research too... out of CERN hunter Feb 2019 #16
Well, CERN is privately owned dalton99a Feb 2019 #36
The concept and protocol was gov and uni based, the modern network capitalism Amishman Feb 2019 #48
Come on genxlib Feb 2019 #14
It was invented by AOL in 1993, right? hunter Feb 2019 #15
I'm down to my last 340 AOL disks gratuitous Feb 2019 #43
It was to allow scientist and government a method of communication in case Russia destroyed Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #17
Yeah, IIRC it was a DARPA project...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #20
Oh cool. Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #50
The government built it, Ad Choices killed it. Initech Feb 2019 #21
Huh? I thought Al Gore invented the internets. madinmaryland Feb 2019 #22
Hehehehhe malaise Feb 2019 #24
He got the funding for DARPA, if memory serves. Ilsa Feb 2019 #26
He got access to it released to the public underpants Feb 2019 #30
Thanks! That's good history to know. nt Ilsa Feb 2019 #37
Expose this fool malaise Feb 2019 #23
Oh, so DARPA is NOT part of the Government? SKKY Feb 2019 #25
It's also a bunch of tubes. El Supremo Feb 2019 #27
That's why trump loves the poorly educated. Turbineguy Feb 2019 #28
Republican Nut Case preaches to choir Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #29
And effin' elected, the real tragedy. brush Feb 2019 #47
Capitalism would have created multiple competing "internets". Beausoleil Feb 2019 #32
Dumber than a 5th grader. procon Feb 2019 #33
Sure. loyalsister Feb 2019 #34
The RNC came from corrupt cronyism struggle4progress Feb 2019 #38
She google that? She try ARPANET? irisblue Feb 2019 #39
The internet came from nerds that wanted to play Dungeons and Dragons with each other long distance pecosbob Feb 2019 #40
Another RW rewriting of history n/t Liberal In Texas Feb 2019 #41
My go to line when with right wingers bitching about good government. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #42
It must hurt to be that stupid. lpbk2713 Feb 2019 #46
and babies are found behind cabbages...or in diapers carried by storks beachbum bob Mar 2019 #51

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
44. republican lies are toxic for America
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:29 PM
Feb 2019

The repubes lie about everything. Deplorable.

republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
2. I hope someone educated her.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

Not that I believe she's capable of being educated, but one has to at least try.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
52. I used to think it was at the request of Trump.....
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:38 AM
Mar 2019

....now I think it was at the request of Mitt Romney and the Romney family that they begged this idiot to please not use the family name so as not to embarrass them all....

Yavin4

(35,440 posts)
7. The same elitists university people trying to bilk the world out of that sweet
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

sweet, grant money to study climate change no doubt.

unblock

(52,240 posts)
8. And, of course, the whole modern computer was largely create and advanced through similar partnering
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:03 PM
Feb 2019

Universities and the government do the research and invention.
The private sector innovates products and figures out his to profit from it.

Celerity

(43,383 posts)
45. that timeline is off by years, by August 1976, Queen Elizabeth II had already sent an e-mail
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:38 PM
Feb 2019
https://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/

1957
USSR launches Sputnik, first artificial earth satellite. In response, US forms the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), the following year, within the Department of Defense (DoD) to establish US lead in science and technology applicable to the military (:amk
1960s

1961

Leonard Kleinrock, MIT: "Information Flow in Large Communication Nets" (May 31)
First paper on packet-switching (PS) theory

1962

J.C.R. Licklider & W. Clark, MIT: "On-Line Man Computer Communication" (August)
Galactic Network concept encompassing distributed social interactions

1964

Paul Baran, RAND: "On Distributed Communications Networks"
Packet-switching networks; no single outage point

1965

ARPA sponsors study on "cooperative network of time-sharing computers"
TX-2 at MIT Lincoln Lab and AN/FSQ-32 at System Development Corporation (Santa Monica, CA) are directly linked (without packet switches) via a dedicated 1200bps phone line; Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) computer at ARPA later added to form "The Experimental Network"

1966

Lawrence G. Roberts, MIT: "Towards a Cooperative Network of Time-Shared Computers" (October)
First ARPANET plan

1967

ARPANET design discussions held by Larry Roberts at ARPA IPTO PI meeting in Ann Arbor, Michigan (April)
ACM Symposium on Operating Systems Principles in Gatlinburg, Tennessee (October)
First design paper on ARPANET published by Larry Roberts: "Multiple Computer Networks and Intercomputer Communication
First meeting of the three independent packet network teams (RAND, NPL, ARPA)
National Physical Laboratory (NPL) in Middlesex, England develops NPL Data Network under Donald Watts Davies who coins the term packet. The NPL network, an experiment in packet-switching, used 768kbps lines

1968

PS-network presented to the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA)
Request for quotation for ARPANET (29 Jul) sent out in August; responses received in September
University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) awarded Network Measurement Center contract in October
Network Working Group (NWG), headed by Steve Crocker, loosely organized to develop host level protocols for communication over the ARPANET. (:vgc
Tymnet built as part of Tymshare service (:vgc

1969

Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc. (BBN) awarded Packet Switch contract to build Interface Message Processors (IMPs) in January
US Senator Edward Kennedy sends a congratulatory telegram to BBN for its million-dollar ARPA contract to build the "Interfaith" Message Processor, and thanking them for their ecumenical efforts

ARPANET commissioned by DoD for research into networking

Nodes are stood up as BBN builds each IMP [Honeywell DDP-516 mini computer with 12K of memory]; AT&T provides lines bundled to 50kbps

Node 1: UCLA (30 August, hooked up 2 September)
Function: Network Measurement Center
System,OS: SDS SIGMA 7, SEX
Diagram of the first host to IMP connection

Node 2: Stanford Research Institute (SRI) (1 October)
Network Information Center (NIC)
SDS940/Genie
Doug Engelbart's project on "Augmentation of Human Intellect"

Node 3: University of California Santa Barbara (UCSB) (1 November)
Culler-Fried Interactive Mathematics
IBM 360/75, OS/MVT

Node 4: University of Utah (December)
Graphics
DEC PDP-10, Tenex
Diagram of the 4-node ARPAnet
First Request for Comment (RFC): "Host Software" by Steve Crocker (7 April)
RFC 4: Network Timetable

First packets sent by Charley Kline at UCLA as he tried logging into SRI. The first attempt resulted in the system crashing as the letter G of LOGIN was entered. (October 29) [ Log entry ]
Univ of Michigan, Michigan State and Wayne State Univ establish X.25-based Merit network for students, faculty, alumni
(:sw1

1970s

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1976

Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom sends out an email on 26 March from the Royal Signals and Radar Establishment (RSRE) in Malvern


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Brother Buzz

(36,436 posts)
49. It's all about the dough
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:04 PM
Feb 2019

Those beer swilling Silicon Valley eggheads figured a way to make money on it in the beer garden that day.

CloudWatcher

(1,848 posts)
53. Internet vs Arpanet
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:47 AM
Mar 2019

They’re talking about the Internet vs the original Arpanet. Linking networks together instead of having to be directly attached.

The Arpanet was a huge success but not everyone could attach directly to it. It needed a rethink to evolve into today’s Internet.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
9. This is also a person that doesn't believe in climate change and gun control
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:05 PM
Feb 2019

What do you expect? Has anyone asked her about vaccination?

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
13. Not deserved but...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:14 PM
Feb 2019

I suppose it could be claimed the www came from capitalism but not the internet. Wonder if she knows the difference?

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
48. The concept and protocol was gov and uni based, the modern network capitalism
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019

Building on the foundation provided by that research.

Like most complex things, it has no single creator or architect

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
43. I'm down to my last 340 AOL disks
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:25 PM
Feb 2019

I might have to start paying for internet access in about three more years.

Farmer-Rick

(10,175 posts)
17. It was to allow scientist and government a method of communication in case Russia destroyed
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:26 PM
Feb 2019

Our phone/radio/tv network.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
21. The government built it, Ad Choices killed it.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:30 PM
Feb 2019

I will still claim that Ad Choices, Outbrain, and Taboola are the worst thing to happen to the internet.

underpants

(182,811 posts)
30. He got access to it released to the public
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:27 PM
Feb 2019

The internet was primarily used to move schematics and blue prints between the Pentagon and MIT (maybe some other engineering schools) for review.

The internet was running when Woodstock happened

Beausoleil

(2,843 posts)
32. Capitalism would have created multiple competing "internets".
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:29 PM
Feb 2019

And would have been forced by government regulation to agree to standards and allow traffic to/from each other and smash regional monopolies. Nothing would be free, someone would charge for every bit of content. We would still be fighting those battles.

Capitalism invented Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.

procon

(15,805 posts)
33. Dumber than a 5th grader.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:40 PM
Feb 2019

Republicans have no new ideas and no interest in adapting their policies to find a place in the modern world. They are dinosaurs, forgotten as our society changes and new voters increasingly find the GOP to be irrelevant and out of touch with the majority of Americans.

Their only solution is to lie, obfuscate and deceive their own base, and acceptable practice that strengthens their tribal bonding and provides comfort that soothes their fragile confirmation biases.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
34. Sure.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:49 PM
Feb 2019

The internet has been enabled by capitalism with another contribution from the socialist benefactor that is the US government.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
42. My go to line when with right wingers bitching about good government.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:55 PM
Feb 2019

I as them to name 3 great things the government did not directly to or facilitate. There really is nothing. After 2 or 3 things get shut down the subject changes.

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