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mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:47 PM Feb 2019

Mark Meadows (who was such a jerk during Cohen's testimony) is a result of Republican gerrymandering

in North Carolina in 2011.

Elections have consequences, and this guy is one of them.

He represents the 11th District in NC, which had been represented by Democrat Heath Shuler, prior to the redistricting.

The 11th District was traditionally one of the most competitive congressional districts in North Carolina. This was largely because of the district's volatile politics. It was historically anchored by Asheville, which was heavily Democratic. However, many of the city's suburbs are among the most conservative areas of North Carolina. The rest of the district was split between Democratic-leaning counties in the south and Republican-leaning counties in the north. Consequently, congressional races in this district have historically been very close and hard-fought.

In 2011 the Republican-dominated legislature redrew the district, shifting most of Asheville to the 10th district. The new map split Asheville in such a way that in some neighborhoods, one side of the street moved to the 10th while the other side of the street stayed in the 11th[5].

To make up for the loss in population, the 11th absorbed some strongly Republican territory in the Foothills which had previously been in the 10th. On paper, the 11th was one of the strongest Republican districts in the South. In February 2012 Shuler announced he would not seek a fourth term.[6] Meadows won the seat in 2012




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina%27s_11th_congressional_district


So, what the Republican dominated NC Legislature did was split Asheville (heavily Democratic) away from the 11th district and stick it on the edge of the heavily Republican 10th District. They transferred some 10th District Republicans to the 11th district to offset the population from Asheville and voila! created another Republican district.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina%27s_10th_congressional_district

Republicans are cheats. So it's not a surprise to see a Republican cheat from North Carolina cozying up to the orange Cheat-in-Chief.
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Mark Meadows (who was such a jerk during Cohen's testimony) is a result of Republican gerrymandering (Original Post) mnhtnbb Feb 2019 OP
Kicked and recommended. nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #1
Correction: Poiuyt Feb 2019 #2
True that! mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #5
K & frickin' R for exposure diva77 Feb 2019 #3
I don't know that Meadows has gotten a lot of national exposure before mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #6
would love to see the ACLU and other groups sue rethugs for neglecting to heed the Supreme Ct order diva77 Feb 2019 #17
This. It is infuriating. n/t ms liberty Aug 2019 #30
Just edited to add the maps. mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #4
Why would Elijah Cummings call this person a close friend? Baitball Blogger Feb 2019 #7
You'd have to ask Cummings. mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #8
Here's a jewel for you. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #9
I saw that! mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #11
Cummings should apologize for making Tlaib apologize. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #14
Maybe he's trying to win him away from the darkside. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #15
Didn't NC gerrymandering recently get killed? lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #10
They dragged their feet long enough the Court didn't make them do it for the 2018 election. mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #12
Well, two extra years should be long enough to re-draw a map lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #13
The corrections they made didn't do squat and were appealed. mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #16
Lawrence O'Donnell just nailed Meadows as a racist mnhtnbb Mar 2019 #18
I'm running to FIRE Meadows in 2020 sw4nc Aug 2019 #19
I'm throwing up a more user-friendly link, including a link to your YouTube video. Good luck! Brother Buzz Aug 2019 #20
Good idea and hope he takes you up on the NC suggestion! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #25
Why do you not mention you're a Democrat anywhere on your website? marble falls Aug 2019 #21
He does mention it in the YouTube video text, so there's that Brother Buzz Aug 2019 #22
We all do. One of my fifth or sixth great-grandfathers was a Whig governor ... marble falls Aug 2019 #23
My grandfather was a Roosevelt Democrat, that whole side of my family votes Democratic. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #24
There were three Whig governors in my family of two states who while they ... marble falls Aug 2019 #27
Sounds complicated, but also that you have a lot to be proud of! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #28
Welcome to DU, Steve Woodsmall and good luck! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #26
LOL, what is this, a mini MIR Team convention? Brother Buzz Aug 2019 #29
Guess it is. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #31

diva77

(7,643 posts)
3. K & frickin' R for exposure
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:56 PM
Feb 2019

Would be interesting to see a list of all gerrymandered rethug squatters

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
6. I don't know that Meadows has gotten a lot of national exposure before
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:05 PM
Feb 2019

the Committee hearing yesterday. A lot of people were glued to the hearing all day long (including me).

I live in the heavily Democratic 4th District in NC. It's one of the few Democratic districts that couldn't be shifted by the Republican gerrymandering of 2011. NC really has been a purple state. It went for Obama in 2008. Prior to the gerrymandering, we had an almost even split of Democratic/Republican Representatives to Congress. It used be 7/6 one way or the other. It's now 10 Repubs to 3 Dems as a result of the gerrymandering.

The damn Republicans in the State Legislature have been ordered several times by the Supreme Court to fix the gerrymandered district maps, and they just shine it. I have nothing but contempt for Republicans in this state and it's in part, because of this cheating mentality.

And we've been living with this for almost a decade because Dems didn't turn out in the mid-terms of 2010 and the State House was overtaken by Republicans who then gerrymandered the hell out of the Congressional district maps.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
17. would love to see the ACLU and other groups sue rethugs for neglecting to heed the Supreme Ct order
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:05 PM
Feb 2019

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
4. Just edited to add the maps.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 04:57 PM
Feb 2019

The gerrymandering is so obvious when you look at the maps and see the hole made by taking Asheville away from the 11th and putting it in the 10th.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
11. I saw that!
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:15 PM
Feb 2019

Tapes have surfaced since yesterday of Meadows telling Obama to go back to Kenya. He's a birther POS. I really do not know how/why Cummings is friends with him. Cummings must just be an amazingly gracious and tolerant person.

littlemissmartypants

(22,691 posts)
15. Maybe he's trying to win him away from the darkside.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

Or he serves on a committee with him and has to have Meadow's help to succeed. Sometimes you have to go a long way out of your way to come back a short distance correctly.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
12. They dragged their feet long enough the Court didn't make them do it for the 2018 election.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019
A panel of federal judges has dropped plans to force a redrawing of North Carolina's congressional districts in advance of this fall's midterm elections.

The decision Tuesday came after groups challenging the state's district map said they opposed making such a change so close to the Nov. 6 contest.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/north-carolina-redistricting-midterms-807155

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
16. The corrections they made didn't do squat and were appealed.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:22 PM
Feb 2019

The Court struck down the revised maps and told them to do it again. That's when they got away with whining about how close it was to the election so they couldn't possibly do new districts.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/north-carolina-redistricting-midterms-807155

Republicans are a bunch of whiny little cheaters. I really have no respect for them.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
18. Lawrence O'Donnell just nailed Meadows as a racist
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:09 AM
Mar 2019

and explained what happened when the freshman Congresswoman called him out for the racist stunt when he had a black woman who works in the Administration stand by Meadows side--saying nothing--while Meadows spoke for her.

ODonnell showed clips from Meadows' 2012 campaign where he talked about sending Obama back to Kenya. Lawrence called Meadows a racist and said he wasn't bound by Congressional rules of decorum so would not be apologizing.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
20. I'm throwing up a more user-friendly link, including a link to your YouTube video. Good luck!
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 06:57 PM
Aug 2019
https://woodsmall4nc.com/



If you do revisit, I might suggest plugging into the North Carolina (Group) to help spread your message, as this thread is archived and VERY few people will actually see it:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1069

Again, good luck, and keep fighting the good fight!

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
22. He does mention it in the YouTube video text, so there's that
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 08:39 PM
Aug 2019

Steve Woodsmall is a retired USAF Major, professor, activist and Democrat running for Congress in NC-11.

On edit: He's had 131 views since March; the dude needs to up his game!

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
23. We all do. One of my fifth or sixth great-grandfathers was a Whig governor ...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:19 PM
Aug 2019

of NC. NC is of interest to me. We need to not be shy about being Democrats.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
24. My grandfather was a Roosevelt Democrat, that whole side of my family votes Democratic.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:38 PM
Aug 2019

I had two of them (second cousins) on my list when I made GOTV calls for my congressman, LOL. I explained to just those two who I was.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
27. There were three Whig governors in my family of two states who while they ...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:31 PM
Aug 2019

supported the Union were slave owners. I feel like I have some karma to work through.

The one who was the governor of NC became a Confederate congressman, the one who was governor of Kentucky was arrested when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and imprisoned without due process and when released went to South America for the rest of the war.. One of his nephews won a posthumous Medal of Honor for his part in the Andersonville Raid (The Great Train Chase).

The son of the NC governor donated the equivalent of $120M on 2019 dollars to the NC state university and was a founder of Union Carbide.

We have a complicated history.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
28. Sounds complicated, but also that you have a lot to be proud of!
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:52 PM
Aug 2019

And as Bill Maher described in this week's "New Rules," we cannot look at the past by today's standards. That was the way things were back then and it's not up to us to judge them - they did the best they could with what they knew at the time.

Aside from my Dutch grandmother whose ancestors go way back, my mother's parents (Polish) and my Dad's paternal grandparents (Irish) "came over on the last boat," as my mother described it. But they all served, both of my grandfathers served in WWI. My mother's father arrived in this country, they made him a citizen and sent him to France - and my paternal grandfather served on horseback, delivering ammunition to the front - while his brother (my great uncle) who signed up with him was in the worst of the fighting and was awarded the Silver Star. I went to a ceremony honoring him just last year. So I'm proud of my ancestors and you should be too!

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
26. Welcome to DU, Steve Woodsmall and good luck!
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

Please take us up on weighing in on our North Carolina Group! I have friends and family in NC-10 and they vote Democratic, Western NC is a beautiful part of the state!

North Carolina (Group)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1069

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
29. LOL, what is this, a mini MIR Team convention?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:10 AM
Aug 2019

FWIW, I posted a quick note at Steve's web page, suggesting he return for a few short minutes to introduce himself to the North Carolina group.

We'll see where this goes.

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