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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:12 PM Feb 2019

If You Are Still Listening To Van Jones --- STOP IT!!!!

CNN’s Van Jones to CPAC Crowd: Conservative Movement is ‘Now the Leader’ on Criminal Justice Reform

CNN host Van Jones commended the conservative movement for becoming “the leader” on criminal justice reform today while speaking today at CPAC — the biggest annual right-wing gathering in America.

The conservative movement in this country, unfortunately from my point of view, is now the leader on this issue of reform,” the Van Jones Show host said while appearing on stage with American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp, who organizes CPAC. “Republican governors are being tough on the dollar, tough on crime, and shrinking prison populations.

“They’re stealing my issue!” he added, before telling audience members asking him to join the GOP that he will still “stay in my party.”

Jones continued his praise of conservatives by telling them to “take some dadgum credit for being smart. Take some dadgum credit for getting it right.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-van-jones-to-cpac-crowd-conservative-movement-is-now-the-leader-on-criminal-justice-reform/










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If You Are Still Listening To Van Jones --- STOP IT!!!! (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 OP
What a sell-out! thegoose Feb 2019 #1
But, doesn't quite hit the mark. Cha Feb 2019 #31
I stopped after he said, "He is finally becoming a real,president" BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #2
Same here. lilactime Feb 2019 #9
Ditto. W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #10
THIS. Van is incredibly naive. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #16
that did it for me d_b Feb 2019 #18
+1 sarcasmo Feb 2019 #27
Me too. cwydro Mar 2019 #40
I never ever watch CNN anymore. It is a dumpster fire. manor321 Feb 2019 #3
Look at that...you and rump have something in common. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #24
tryouts for Chris Matthews 2.0? 0rganism Feb 2019 #4
This is what his speaking fees bought. procon Feb 2019 #5
If anything good is happening, why object? at140 Feb 2019 #6
I agree underpants Feb 2019 #8
What are they doing right? The OP doesn't specify. nt Doremus Feb 2019 #11
Many more demonstrations are necessary (doubtful) before that becomes a trend Brawndo Feb 2019 #13
Not related! at140 Mar 2019 #41
You're right, I committed the sin of metaphor, it can be confusing I know. Brawndo Mar 2019 #42
Seriously??? LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #28
OK, I will look at him more closely in future at140 Feb 2019 #34
Thank You... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Feb 2019 #29
Never listened to the man. pwb Feb 2019 #7
When he cried in joy after drumpf spoke, I was done with him! mfcorey1 Feb 2019 #12
Van Jones is Full of Crap erpowers Feb 2019 #14
Another reason to boycott CNN miss-nasty Feb 2019 #15
No cable or TV for 10+ years Devil Child Feb 2019 #17
Not sure I agree 100% with you there, Van gratuitous Feb 2019 #19
Yeah, stopped listening to him long ago. His ridiculous Trump Voter Apologist tour was Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #20
I stopped watching when he called the Orange Fuhrer "presidential." Vinca Feb 2019 #21
Put him in the same bin as Diamond and Silk dalton99a Feb 2019 #22
Yep... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #30
When people should you who they are, believe them... brush Feb 2019 #23
Every single thing the GOP ever stood for is a lie today. It is ALL a lie.... Hekate Feb 2019 #25
He lost me a long time ago. LisaM Feb 2019 #26
Done with him... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #32
What a Quack.. giving fascists cover on Cha Feb 2019 #33
So glad I don't have cable. llmart Feb 2019 #35
He lost me at "he became President tonight" !!!! donkeypoofed Feb 2019 #37
He's a Quisling tenderfoot Mar 2019 #38
I can't imagine how anyone could get 'owned by Max Schlapp.' Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2019 #39
 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
1. What a sell-out!
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:15 PM
Feb 2019

Of course, he's the same one who gets all swoony when Dump occasionally acts almost like a human.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
4. tryouts for Chris Matthews 2.0?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:19 PM
Feb 2019

the "liberal media" just isn't complete without some self-described Democrat waving a raging hard-on for conservatives generally and Republican presidents in particular.

at140

(6,110 posts)
6. If anything good is happening, why object?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:22 PM
Feb 2019

Van Jones is no right winger. Far from it!! I have seen him on CNN for years.
Why does it matter if the other party is doing something right?
That does not happen often, so I will take the few times they stumble on something good.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
13. Many more demonstrations are necessary (doubtful) before that becomes a trend
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:30 PM
Feb 2019

If someone is terrorizing children, then stops to help an old woman cross the street and goes right back to terrorizing children would you focus on that one good deed?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
28. Seriously???
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:01 PM
Feb 2019

Did you forget the meaning behind the entire #BlackLivesMatter movement? It was CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM as well as stop the unjustified killings of African-American Boys, Girls, Men and Women.

Ask Van Jones to stop making $$ off OTHER FOLKS IDEAS FIRST then talk to us. By the way, what happened to this so-called "Rebuilt The Dream" (Job Creation supposedly) movement he stole from the long-term unemployed ('08-'13) or Originally called 99ers -- those who receive up to 99 weeks of Unemployment Benefits during the economic crisis of '08' - '13? After the money ran dry -- Van moved the hell on.

Then he wanted to "protect the environment" again from groups like the Sierra Club that's been working to do the same thing for YEARS ON END. Now, he jumped front face on "Prison reform" - which is still Criminal Justice reform by the way. He saw another $$ opportunity $$, claimed it as his own and made $$ off of it.

What Prisoners that are unjustly sentenced, are now being released in mass by his efforts? We'll wait...

If you fail to see who Van Jones is, get thicker glasses as we have been seeing who he really is for years now. Barack Obama did too. That's why he fired him. #FYI...

at140

(6,110 posts)
34. OK, I will look at him more closely in future
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019

Whenever I saw him on CNN, he seemed like a progressive dude to me. But what do I know!

Response to at140 (Reply #6)

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
14. Van Jones is Full of Crap
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:31 PM
Feb 2019

Its seems he is willing to kiss the butt of whoever is in office at the time. He was kissing Jared Kushner's butt and acting like a school girl with a crush a few months ago. I do not completely remember what he said that upset me, but I think he was making a big deal about Jared Kushner's supposed accomplishments and asking how Kushner could have been so successful in life. Considering Jared Kushner had inherited his company from his dad and had his current positions due to the fact that he was married to the daughter of the man in the White House, I did not fell the same about Jared Kushner's supposed accomplishments. I thought it was so stupid for Van Jones to make such a big deal about Kushner's supposed accomplishments.

Jones seems to be forgetting that President Obama tried to get a criminal justice reform bill passed while he was in office and it was the Republican Party that blocked the bill. As far as I know, Mitch McConnell would not allow a vote on the bill even though it was likely the bill would have passed. The bill supported by President Obama was, as far as I know, far more progressive than the bill signed by President Trump. In addition, were not many conservatives like Tom Cotton opposed to the bill even after some of its more progressive provisions were stripped from the bill? Finally, is it not the case that Trump had to be convinced to sign the bill? So, in reality, Trump was a follower and not a leader. The same goes for a number of congressional Conservatives.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Not sure I agree 100% with you there, Van
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:10 PM
Feb 2019

Yes, it's a startling but welcoming development that some Republicans are finally dropping their opposition to abolition of the death penalty. There are even a handful of Republicans who think our criminal justice system is out of whack, and the recent unanimous Supreme Court ruling on asset forfeiture shows that the time is ripe for reining in some of the worst excesses of a draconian, authoritarian system.

But how did the system get to this sorry pass? It wasn't left wingers screaming for mandatory minimum sentences, and taking judicial discretion out of criminal sentencing. It wasn't left wingers who needed to pander to their base by imposing far stiffer sentences for crack use than for cocaine use. It wasn't left wingers pressuring their state legislatures with "three strikes" laws to lock up petty recividists for life. It wasn't left wingers celebrating with "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" parties whenever some luckless fuck got locked up for life for stealing a loaf of bread. It wasn't left wingers who dressed prisoners in pink prison garb and put them in tents in the blazing Arizona sun. It wasn't left wingers who forced the creation of private for-profit prisons to make a commodity out of all the inmates their "tough on crime" legislation produced.

Yes, a handful of Republicans have conceded at last that things have gone too far. But to say that they're now the leaders of the reform movement is to piss on the efforts of thousands of left wing activists who have fought in state legislatures, city councils, and countless other small government venues for decades.

So, uh, thank you, I guess? I said "thank," right?

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
20. Yeah, stopped listening to him long ago. His ridiculous Trump Voter Apologist tour was
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:24 PM
Feb 2019

the final straw, and sealed the deal permanently.



brush

(53,778 posts)
23. When people should you who they are, believe them...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:38 PM
Feb 2019

—Maya Angelou

Such a phony. Wonder how much he got paid.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
25. Every single thing the GOP ever stood for is a lie today. It is ALL a lie....
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:53 PM
Feb 2019

Patriotism
Veterans and soldiers
National defense
Family values
Law and order

All of it. From the time Nixon got elected it has gotten worse every damn year until here we are today in the Time of Trump, where neo-Nazis, white nationalists, and the KKK are all emboldened to come out in broad daylight, and where the worst of police think it is always open season to murder African American males for just walking around loose.

No, wypipo are NOT all in accord with this shit. Never ever ever forget that we voted for Barack Obama and followed up by giving the majority vote to Hillary Clinton by millions, and that it took acts of treason for Trump to be installed.

Van Jones needs his head examined.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
33. What a Quack.. giving fascists cover on
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:12 PM
Feb 2019

criminal justice of all fucking issues.

He also got sucked in by jill stein Lies.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
37. He lost me at "he became President tonight" !!!!
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:55 PM
Feb 2019

When he said that after Two Scoops' first SOU address, he lost me forever. I can barely look at him now and can't watch his show. Same with Fareed zakaria, who committed a similar crime after Moby was dropped.on Syria. Can't watch him either.

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