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CNNs Van Jones to CPAC Crowd: Conservative Movement is Now the Leader on Criminal Justice ReformThe conservative movement in this country, unfortunately from my point of view, is now the leader on this issue of reform, the Van Jones Show host said while appearing on stage with American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp, who organizes CPAC. Republican governors are being tough on the dollar, tough on crime, and shrinking prison populations.
Theyre stealing my issue! he added, before telling audience members asking him to join the GOP that he will still stay in my party.
Jones continued his praise of conservatives by telling them to take some dadgum credit for being smart. Take some dadgum credit for getting it right.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-van-jones-to-cpac-crowd-conservative-movement-is-now-the-leader-on-criminal-justice-reform/
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thegoose
(3,115 posts)Of course, he's the same one who gets all swoony when Dump occasionally acts almost like a human.
Cha
(297,240 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)after the first SOTU in 2017.
lilactime
(657 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)d_b
(7,463 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I cant stand him.
manor321
(3,344 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)0rganism
(23,954 posts)the "liberal media" just isn't complete without some self-described Democrat waving a raging hard-on for conservatives generally and Republican presidents in particular.
procon
(15,805 posts)The RNC got their moneys worth.
at140
(6,110 posts)Van Jones is no right winger. Far from it!! I have seen him on CNN for years.
Why does it matter if the other party is doing something right?
That does not happen often, so I will take the few times they stumble on something good.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Brawndo
(535 posts)If someone is terrorizing children, then stops to help an old woman cross the street and goes right back to terrorizing children would you focus on that one good deed?
at140
(6,110 posts)Your example does not fit what the thread is about.
Brawndo
(535 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Did you forget the meaning behind the entire #BlackLivesMatter movement? It was CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM as well as stop the unjustified killings of African-American Boys, Girls, Men and Women.
Ask Van Jones to stop making $$ off OTHER FOLKS IDEAS FIRST then talk to us. By the way, what happened to this so-called "Rebuilt The Dream" (Job Creation supposedly) movement he stole from the long-term unemployed ('08-'13) or Originally called 99ers -- those who receive up to 99 weeks of Unemployment Benefits during the economic crisis of '08' - '13? After the money ran dry -- Van moved the hell on.
Then he wanted to "protect the environment" again from groups like the Sierra Club that's been working to do the same thing for YEARS ON END. Now, he jumped front face on "Prison reform" - which is still Criminal Justice reform by the way. He saw another $$ opportunity $$, claimed it as his own and made $$ off of it.
What Prisoners that are unjustly sentenced, are now being released in mass by his efforts? We'll wait...
If you fail to see who Van Jones is, get thicker glasses as we have been seeing who he really is for years now. Barack Obama did too. That's why he fired him. #FYI...
at140
(6,110 posts)Whenever I saw him on CNN, he seemed like a progressive dude to me. But what do I know!
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Response to at140 (Reply #6)
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pwb
(11,270 posts)Never will.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)Its seems he is willing to kiss the butt of whoever is in office at the time. He was kissing Jared Kushner's butt and acting like a school girl with a crush a few months ago. I do not completely remember what he said that upset me, but I think he was making a big deal about Jared Kushner's supposed accomplishments and asking how Kushner could have been so successful in life. Considering Jared Kushner had inherited his company from his dad and had his current positions due to the fact that he was married to the daughter of the man in the White House, I did not fell the same about Jared Kushner's supposed accomplishments. I thought it was so stupid for Van Jones to make such a big deal about Kushner's supposed accomplishments.
Jones seems to be forgetting that President Obama tried to get a criminal justice reform bill passed while he was in office and it was the Republican Party that blocked the bill. As far as I know, Mitch McConnell would not allow a vote on the bill even though it was likely the bill would have passed. The bill supported by President Obama was, as far as I know, far more progressive than the bill signed by President Trump. In addition, were not many conservatives like Tom Cotton opposed to the bill even after some of its more progressive provisions were stripped from the bill? Finally, is it not the case that Trump had to be convinced to sign the bill? So, in reality, Trump was a follower and not a leader. The same goes for a number of congressional Conservatives.
miss-nasty
(251 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Much less stress and frustration since cutting the cord.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Yes, it's a startling but welcoming development that some Republicans are finally dropping their opposition to abolition of the death penalty. There are even a handful of Republicans who think our criminal justice system is out of whack, and the recent unanimous Supreme Court ruling on asset forfeiture shows that the time is ripe for reining in some of the worst excesses of a draconian, authoritarian system.
But how did the system get to this sorry pass? It wasn't left wingers screaming for mandatory minimum sentences, and taking judicial discretion out of criminal sentencing. It wasn't left wingers who needed to pander to their base by imposing far stiffer sentences for crack use than for cocaine use. It wasn't left wingers pressuring their state legislatures with "three strikes" laws to lock up petty recividists for life. It wasn't left wingers celebrating with "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" parties whenever some luckless fuck got locked up for life for stealing a loaf of bread. It wasn't left wingers who dressed prisoners in pink prison garb and put them in tents in the blazing Arizona sun. It wasn't left wingers who forced the creation of private for-profit prisons to make a commodity out of all the inmates their "tough on crime" legislation produced.
Yes, a handful of Republicans have conceded at last that things have gone too far. But to say that they're now the leaders of the reform movement is to piss on the efforts of thousands of left wing activists who have fought in state legislatures, city councils, and countless other small government venues for decades.
So, uh, thank you, I guess? I said "thank," right?
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)the final straw, and sealed the deal permanently.
Vinca
(50,273 posts)dalton99a
(81,504 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)This!!!
brush
(53,778 posts)Maya Angelou
Such a phony. Wonder how much he got paid.
Hekate
(90,690 posts)Patriotism
Veterans and soldiers
National defense
Family values
Law and order
All of it. From the time Nixon got elected it has gotten worse every damn year until here we are today in the Time of Trump, where neo-Nazis, white nationalists, and the KKK are all emboldened to come out in broad daylight, and where the worst of police think it is always open season to murder African American males for just walking around loose.
No, wypipo are NOT all in accord with this shit. Never ever ever forget that we voted for Barack Obama and followed up by giving the majority vote to Hillary Clinton by millions, and that it took acts of treason for Trump to be installed.
Van Jones needs his head examined.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)I haven't trusted him in years.
Mike Nelson
(9,956 posts)
when Trump gave his thigh a tingle.
Cha
(297,240 posts)criminal justice of all fucking issues.
He also got sucked in by jill stein Lies.
llmart
(15,540 posts)I had no idea who this was anyway, so no problem.
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)When he said that after Two Scoops' first SOU address, he lost me forever. I can barely look at him now and can't watch his show. Same with Fareed zakaria, who committed a similar crime after Moby was dropped.on Syria. Can't watch him either.