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Atticus

(15,124 posts) Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:12 PM Mar 2019

With apologies to the Oklahomans here:

We have family in Tucson and my best friend lives in Long Beach. If we make a road trip this summer, it is likely to be to California by way of Tucson. Starting from southern Illinois, the common sense route would take us through Oklahoma City. Instead. We will add miles to our trip and stay on I-70 through Kansas and then catch I-25 south.

Oklahoma just passed a "wild west" law: if you want to buy and carry a firearm---open or concealed, I believe---do it. No training required. No permit required. Add to this that I know for a fact there are RWNJs in Oklahoma because several of them are also "RINOs"--- relatives in name only.

In view of the above, why would I risk traversing the state? Why would I want to contribute to their tax base by stopping for a burger or fuel?

Oklahoma is no longer "OK" with me.

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With apologies to the Oklahomans here: (Original Post) Atticus Mar 2019 OP

They join Kentucky as places to fly over or go around. pwb Mar 2019 #1

Yes, I just now read that Kentucky passed the same sort of insane law. Those who vote Atticus Mar 2019 #2

I live in Az. I'm not a gun guy but I believe the same law panader0 Mar 2019 #3

Maybe we'll just fly to California--------- nt Atticus Mar 2019 #4

If I have the time and the money, I much prefer to drive these days. panader0 Mar 2019 #7

I believe South Dakota bluestarone Mar 2019 #5

Permitless carry in South Dakota frogmarch Mar 2019 #8

Yea i hear ya bluestarone Mar 2019 #10

Maybe even worse. I read that frogmarch Mar 2019 #13

I never could figure out why flyover states resent being referred to that way, Aristus Mar 2019 #6

I think that we are going to see America "cored out" Blue_true Mar 2019 #14

Why don't you drive north and come to Southern Cal Blue_true Mar 2019 #9

We used to drive from Houston to Arkansas KatyMan Mar 2019 #11

Tucson is gorgeous today MLAA Mar 2019 #12

Wonder does OK have a bluestarone Mar 2019 #15

pwb

(11,275 posts)

1. They join Kentucky as places to fly over or go around.

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:17 PM

Mar 2019

They can sit in their own stench.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)

2. Yes, I just now read that Kentucky passed the same sort of insane law. Those who vote

Reply to pwb (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:23 PM

Mar 2019

for these NRA wet dreams should understand this: we're coming for you! We're kickin' ass and takin' names.

panader0

(25,816 posts)

3. I live in Az. I'm not a gun guy but I believe the same law

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:30 PM

Mar 2019

applies here in Az. You do just about whatever you want here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Arizona

Atticus

(15,124 posts)

4. Maybe we'll just fly to California--------- nt

Reply to panader0 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:38 PM

Mar 2019

panader0

(25,816 posts)

7. If I have the time and the money, I much prefer to drive these days.

Reply to Atticus (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:58 PM

Mar 2019

It's more relaxing and if you take some side roads, more interesting.
Besides seeing shoppers with their pistols on, etc., there's been no
unusual spike in gun violence, except for that incident in Tombstone
last year. One of the Vigilantes that act for the tourists had forgotten
to replace his real bullets for blanks. A guy was shot but not too badly.
The Vigilante lost his job.

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)

5. I believe South Dakota

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:39 PM

Mar 2019

Did the same!! Loved SD BUT not much anymore!

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)

8. Permitless carry in South Dakota

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:05 PM

Mar 2019

will start on July 1st, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_South_Dakota

Glad I don't live there anymore, but I'm right next door.

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)

10. Yea i hear ya

Reply to frogmarch (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:08 PM

Mar 2019

Fucking wildwest days every day there now!! NOT GOOD!

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)

13. Maybe even worse. I read that

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:13 PM

Mar 2019

in the wild west, people coming to town had to leave their firearms at the sheriff's office.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)

6. I never could figure out why flyover states resent being referred to that way,

Reply to Atticus (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:55 PM

Mar 2019

and then pass stupid laws like that that convince sane, smart people to never want to visit or even drive through their state.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

14. I think that we are going to see America "cored out"

Reply to Aristus (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:15 PM

Mar 2019

I think coastal states, except for maybe South Carolina, and Lousiana (and even they are getting better) and hopeless Mississippi and Alabama are trending toward blue, it will take a few more years, but it is happening slowly. The coasts are rapidly accounting for more and more of the nation's economy, along with the northern tier states. The central core, except for Colorado and New Mexico and to some extent, Arizona, are becoming more red and less successful at building vibrant economies. At some point the country will core out as the coastal and interior blue states leave the others behind.