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In the first wave of commentary following Cohens hearing last week, many rightly focused on Cohens testifying that the President Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress about the Moscow Tower deal. What has largely escaped notice is that Cohen directly implicated the President in an instruction to lie about collusion more generally. Cohens about face on the question of collusion has also been missedthat is, seeing what Cohen told Congress in late 2017 compared to what Cohen told Congress on Wednesday.
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If Trump directed or encouraged Cohen to lie to Congress, it could be a criminal offense and impeachable whether or not a grand conspiracy with Russia occurred in 2016. Trump apparently wanted Cohen to deny any knowledge or belief of collusion, including any evidence that might point in that direction or provide investigators with leads. If Cohen, for example, had reason to conclude that Trump knew and approved of the June 9 meeting, Cohen understood that the President did not want him to reveal any such information to Congress. And that is part of what Cohen, indeed, kept hidden.
It is important to take a step back to reflect on whats happened here. Just imagine if Cohen had stated his true knowledge and belief about about collusion with Russia in his written testimony in Sept. 2017, which he released to the public at that time. It would have been extremely damaging to the President and other members of the campaign in the course of the Russia investigation, and that was exactly what President Trump apparently wanted to prevent.
The question is now whether President Trump told or encouraged Cohen to lie to Congress. If there is additional evidence to corroborate Cohens claims, it may help spell the fate of his presidency.
MUCH More:
https://www.justsecurity.org/62785/trump-told-cohen-lie-congress-collusion-general-not-moscow-tower-deal/
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Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)After Cohen explained how Trump gets across what he wants said in public, Cohen also mentioned that Trumps lawyers had made changes to his written statements, presumably at Trumps behest. Why did no one ask this question, Did lawyers add or change what you had written? If so, and you knew their additions were lies, was it your understanding that you had no choice but to repeat what the lawyers had written as your testimony to Congress?
Such questions might have reinforced another path for the information Cohen lied about in his first testimony and implicated both Trump and his lawyers in his lies.
sobenji
(316 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They then asked Cohen to produce the changes (he kept his draft, and the edited version). He said he would.
What the W.H. lawyers (that's what Cohen calls them at one point, and another point refers to atty Sekulow, who was in the mtg Cohen had with Trump after the raid) changed was the timing of the Trump negotiations w/Russia for the Moscow Project. Cohen was going to say when it really ended (Late summer 2016, I think?), but the W.H. changed that to January 2016 (I think that was the date).
They didn't have to ask again about whether he felt he had no choice, because there were several discussions at the hearing that Trump told him and the team what to say by expressing a thought that was to be the official line: "There's no business with Russia," for example. And that was back when Cohen was willing to lie for Trump, so he wouldn't have fought it.
They may have gone into more detail in the closed session, but it was clear that they gave him the version they wanted him to give. And that Cohen had presented to them the version he was prepared to give.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Trump and Sekulow had a meeting with Cohen about his upcoming Congressional testimony, at which Cohen presented what he planned on saying. Cohen rec'd (later, I believe) an edited draft, which edited out the dates that Trump was negotiating w/Russia for the Moscow hotel.
I think Cohen said that Trump didn't tell him specifically what to say. Trump speaks in code, like "There's no business in Russia." Meaning that that's the line that Team Trump takes.
Also, at the recent hearing Cohen specifically answered that he saw no direct evidence of Trump colluding with Russia, or something like that. There was just that phone call w/Roger Stone, which means that Trump knew that Stone was working on the Clinton emails w/Wikileaks.
So I think some parts of this article may not be true. Is there Cohen testimony from last week where Cohen says that Trump told him to lie about Trump colluding with Russia? I didn't see any, and I haven't heard of any.
sobenji
(316 posts)Nitram
(22,813 posts)what Trump wanted him to do. I thought Cohen was quit especific the he did not know anything related to collusion. Am I mistaken?