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My guess is that Stone is going to jail: (Original Post) janx Mar 2019 OP
Yeah, that doesn't look good. :) manor321 Mar 2019 #1
Stone doesn't look good either lately: OompaLoompa Pinhead lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #8
Soemthing odd going on there ToxMarz Mar 2019 #29
It looks like hair attached to a doll's head. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #41
Hahaha ToxMarz Mar 2019 #48
He likes tattoos. It's popular now to tattoo your eyeballs in prison. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #61
OH, I think it looks great. TNNurse Mar 2019 #39
Couldn't happen to a "nicer" guy Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #2
Surely the judge already knew about this idiocy? Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #3
I don't know, but when I read about it yesterday, janx Mar 2019 #5
Yeah, he acts as if he really wants to get locked up, j - Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #14
There must be some reason. janx Mar 2019 #17
Martyrs are BIG in the conservative movement. Caliman73 Mar 2019 #36
Safer from the russians d_r Mar 2019 #38
My thoughts exactly. TxVietVet Mar 2019 #47
Hubris has played a huge role in world history. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #51
Maybe he is being threatened by someone and wants to be out of japple Mar 2019 #28
Who would be surprised if this was actually the case, j? - but if so, seems to me he'd be posting Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #32
It's like the Darwin award, only in court. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #42
Gotta go thru channels Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #7
Whether or not the judge had heard, everything has to be part of court record. pnwmom Mar 2019 #13
Now I understand - of course there must be a record - thanks mom - nt Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #34
Apparently Mr. Stone too stupid to include it in the disclosures previously reported to Judge. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #33
Throw him in jail malaise Mar 2019 #4
Lock him up! Quemado Mar 2019 #6
Yep. This one goes out to Mr. Stone: happybird Mar 2019 #9
I wonder why they filed both those things under seal, since anyone can go to Amazon pnwmom Mar 2019 #10
An abundance of caution gratuitous Mar 2019 #20
Stone's Instagram post: dalton99a Mar 2019 #11
Honestly-- janx Mar 2019 #15
Psychopaths like to push limits dalton99a Mar 2019 #18
Exactly. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #30
He is going to argue NewJeffCT Mar 2019 #62
Looks like.... Gregory Peccary Mar 2019 #35
How stupid can one person under a microscope really be? George II Mar 2019 #12
I don't know!! janx Mar 2019 #16
I believe Stone* thinks tRump* will ultimately pardon him... Raster Mar 2019 #45
Trump doesn't care about anyone except his family. People expecting gifts from him will be sorely Maraya1969 Mar 2019 #63
They always seem to take "how stupid" as a challenge. nt SeattleVet Mar 2019 #54
He still has a begging website up canetoad Mar 2019 #19
When I tried to go there the link didn't work. pnwmom Mar 2019 #22
It's still up for me canetoad Mar 2019 #58
Maybe so. I also googled for it, and I couldn't get there that way either. pnwmom Mar 2019 #59
It would certainly qualify. n/t janx Mar 2019 #23
Trying make himself out a martyr as a grift? Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #21
Hey Roger, bring your toothbrush when you appear before the court saljr1 Mar 2019 #24
I wonder how he will like being in a cell by himself. In the future, he & Manafort can be cellmates. LonePirate Mar 2019 #25
With luck he'll soon be wearing regular stripes in his adjusted enviroment. yonder Mar 2019 #26
we have an answer to the question, "who framed roger stone?" unblock Mar 2019 #27
Ding Ding Ding! 2naSalit Mar 2019 #31
Decades too late Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #37
I read that Mueller signed off on this. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #40
He just barely got out of it last time. janx Mar 2019 #44
Wow.Preparing to throw the judge under the bus already. onenote Mar 2019 #52
Whoever normally handles such things. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #55
The "public can insist on it"? onenote Mar 2019 #56
My first and second thoughts are "F Him." And I stand by that. JDC Mar 2019 #43
This little asshole just can't help himself Joe Nation Mar 2019 #46
Enjoy the barrel, Rog! Hassler Mar 2019 #49
Maybe Stone wants the safety of lock-up. DemoTex Mar 2019 #50
His head looks like he had an Aztec head binding. Maybe it misshaped his brain in the process Cousin Dupree Mar 2019 #53
I thought his attorneys were supposed to answer to the judge TODAY! BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #57
Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #60
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Yeah, that doesn't look good. :)
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:12 PM
Mar 2019

It's not a good sign for Roger that Mueller's team wants to mention it to the judge.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,733 posts)
41. It looks like hair attached to a doll's head.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:19 PM
Mar 2019
Typically, you cut the existing hair close to the scalp and remove the doll's head from its body to get access to the inside. Then, use a combination of a crochet hook and tweezers to remove the existing hair. Tie a knot at the end of a hank of the doll's new hair. Using a needle, thread the other end of the hair and push it from the inside of the doll's head through a hair hole. Pull the thread through until the knot stops it. Repeat for all of the holes in the doll's head. You may have to experiment a time or two to get the right amount of hair for the size of the holes.
https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/doll-hair-rooted.htm

Is that how Roger did it?

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
3. Surely the judge already knew about this idiocy?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:14 PM
Mar 2019

I wonder if Mr. Mueller & Co have to make it “official” -

At any rate, thank this loser off the streets please

janx

(24,128 posts)
5. I don't know, but when I read about it yesterday,
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

I couldn't believe anyone could be so stupid as to go against an order so quickly. It's as if he wants to go to jail.

janx

(24,128 posts)
17. There must be some reason.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:23 PM
Mar 2019

Darned if I know what though. Maybe he thinks he'll be able to grift more from jail, that he'll get more money somehow.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
36. Martyrs are BIG in the conservative movement.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

Trumpers are so gullible and ready to be angered, that they will likely think that Stone is being sent to jail unjustly. Stone thinks that he can be just like G. Gordon Liddy or Oliver North who got busted then came out as huge celebrities in that sewer they call the conservative movement.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
47. My thoughts exactly.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:59 PM
Mar 2019

He can be such a self-promoting ass that he may forget and rat out a Russian. Pooty could have him wasted.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
32. Who would be surprised if this was actually the case, j? - but if so, seems to me he'd be posting
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:46 PM
Mar 2019

dumb shit every six minutes and/or holding dumbass press conferences in order to make it happen STAT

I think he’s just...whacked

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. Whether or not the judge had heard, everything has to be part of court record.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

But I wouldn't expect the judge to have been following Stone on Twitter, or to have read Dersh's introduction to the book at Amazon. She's only supposed to consider official court documents.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. I wonder why they filed both those things under seal, since anyone can go to Amazon
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:20 PM
Mar 2019

and read what Dersh's intro says, and anyone can go on Twitter and read the tweet.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. An abundance of caution
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

No sense letting Stone off the hook because the prosecutor filed something in open court that should have been filed under seal. If it's not appropriate for withholding from the public file, the court will unseal it on its own motion.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
62. He is going to argue
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:27 AM
Mar 2019

that the judge said he could proclaim his innocence and that's what he's doing here.

(a lot more than saying he's innocent, though, if he's saying he's framed)

Raster

(20,998 posts)
45. I believe Stone* thinks tRump* will ultimately pardon him...
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:33 PM
Mar 2019

...the OrangeAnus* and Stone* go back years. I really think that Stone* believes that the rules do not apply to him.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
63. Trump doesn't care about anyone except his family. People expecting gifts from him will be sorely
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:30 PM
Mar 2019

dissapointed.

canetoad

(17,168 posts)
19. He still has a begging website up
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

He hasn't taken down his criticisms of Mueller. I wonder if this also breaks the terms of the gag order.


https://whoframedrogerstone.com/
Despite a lack of evidence of Russian Collusion, Wikileaks collaboration or any other illegal activity in the 2016 election, long time Trump advisor Roger Stone has been targeted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller seeks to criminalize normal political activities by Roger Stone while ignoring the blatantly illegal activities of the Clinton campaign and the Obama NSA,DOJ and FBI.

Roger Stone refuses to be pressured into testifying against President Trump. His legal fees in this epic fight could top $2 million, threatening to destroy him and his family.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
59. Maybe so. I also googled for it, and I couldn't get there that way either.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:27 PM
Mar 2019

Got the same 404 message. So, yeah, maybe he's just took that down in the U.S.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
21. Trying make himself out a martyr as a grift?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Mar 2019

Hard to tell who is stupider him for getting himself thrown in jail or the fools willing to send him money.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
25. I wonder how he will like being in a cell by himself. In the future, he & Manafort can be cellmates.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mar 2019

yonder

(9,666 posts)
26. With luck he'll soon be wearing regular stripes in his adjusted enviroment.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:30 PM
Mar 2019

None of that pin stripe festoonery for him. Nosiree.

A small part of me is thinking he's purposely bringing this on himself - for some sort of convoluted PR/martyr/publicity reason. I mean, how clear could Judge ABJ have been? How do you not follow her specific instructions unless you really are an idiot?

unblock

(52,253 posts)
27. we have an answer to the question, "who framed roger stone?"
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:31 PM
Mar 2019

and the answer is...

... roger stone!


Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
40. I read that Mueller signed off on this.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:18 PM
Mar 2019

She has no choice but to jail him. If she doesn't, she needs to be removed from the case for being unable to handle this high profile case of a mobster.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
52. Wow.Preparing to throw the judge under the bus already.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:23 PM
Mar 2019

I'm curious. Who do you think will remove Judge Jackson for exercising her discretion regarding the enforcement of her own order?

And when they remove her for not being able to handle "this high profile case of a mobster" do you think they should remove her from the Manafort case, where she is scheduled to issue her sentencing order next week?

Pffft....

Onedit: For the record I think she should and will order him jailed (just as she ordered Manafort jailed). But if she doesn't, it isn't proof she's incapable of handling this case.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
55. Whoever normally handles such things.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:42 PM
Mar 2019

Usually one side or the other requests it. Or the public can insist on it.

It's clear:

(1) She's dealing with a mobster. Not a normal criminal.

(2) It's clear that the mobster took her not jailing him for violating her order (remember that he ALREADY violated her direct order), he took that for weakness. She didn't even hit him with a fine. She sent him off with "You've been a bad boy. Time Out. Go stand in the corner until your trial."

(3) If she is "weak" again, he will be running the case and doing what he likes. Her orders will become meaningless, because there will be no accountability for his violating them.

This is reality. It's like those "nice" judges that for years let stalkers go free because he hadn't done anything illegal, only for the stalker to kill or throw acid in the face of his victim. Now, judges take a stronger stance, after public pressure.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
56. The "public can insist on it"?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:54 PM
Mar 2019

It's particularly embarrassing to see something that uninformed on DU.

No. The public has no standing to demand anything. And Stone's lawyers aren't going to demand her removal is she doesn't jail Stone. And neither is Mueller, particularly if doesn't want to screw up his Manafort case.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
57. I thought his attorneys were supposed to answer to the judge TODAY!
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:59 PM
Mar 2019

"Jackson gave Stone’s lawyers until Monday to explain why they didn’t tell her until this week about the looming publication, which she emphasized “was known to the defendant.”
This was regarding his book, before the newer instagram came out.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/01/roger-stone-gag-order-book-1198892

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