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lunatica

(53,410 posts) Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:25 PM Mar 2019

If this country can live through Trump

it can sure as hell live through and survive the impeachment of Trump.

Why is this even being argued?

Even if we supposedly have very little time we already have plenty of proof on various crimes.

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If this country can live through Trump (Original Post) lunatica Mar 2019 OP

We have survived a Civil War, numerous events of unrest, wars, a Great Depression... Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #1

I'm not sure we are really going to make it through Trump. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #2

Well it's a sure thing that if we don't fight this shit lunatica Mar 2019 #3

Over the past several decades lots of predictions have PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #6

I like everyone running right now lunatica Mar 2019 #7

It's like jumping into the fire! "Getting rid of Trump and gaining President Pence will not be an RKP5637 Mar 2019 #4

TRump will fight leaving even after being impeached lunatica Mar 2019 #5

Excellent point! Pence's scope in reality would be quite limited! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #9

We owe it to our Founding Fathers to impeach this asshole. lunatica Mar 2019 #8

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)

1. We have survived a Civil War, numerous events of unrest, wars, a Great Depression...

Reply to lunatica (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:28 PM

Mar 2019

of course we can survive Trump. The problem is that we will have to clean up his d**n mess.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)

2. I'm not sure we are really going to make it through Trump.

Reply to lunatica (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:33 PM

Mar 2019

The damage he has done goes far beyond the constant lies, or profiting financially by having foreign diplomats stay at his hotel, or how much has been spent so he can go golfing in Florida every weekend, or even the collusion with Russia. In the larger picture those things don't really matter. What matters, what we may never get out from under, is the judges he's appointed, the people who are heading up departments they despise, the rolling back of regulations of all sorts, and the loss of good civil servants with decades of experience who are not longer putting up with this crap.

Getting rid of Trump and gaining President Pence will not be an improvement. We can only hope that in 2020 a Democrat becomes our 46th President, and take enormous majorities in the House, Senate, as well as in state houses and senates and governor's mansions across the country. Then, and only then can we start to turn this country around. But even if that happens, the turnaround will be enormously slow.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

3. Well it's a sure thing that if we don't fight this shit

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:40 PM

Mar 2019

Then they WILL win.

If the House starts the impeachment it will take up a large part of this year, if not more. Pence, if he doesn’t get impeached himself, won’t have much time to do much harm, nor will he have a solid Republican Congress to give him everything he wants.

In 2020 a Democrat will be elected President. The Republican Party is ruined. Maybe for years.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)

6. Over the past several decades lots of predictions have

Reply to lunatica (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:52 PM

Mar 2019

been made about the imminent demise of either the Republican or the Democratic Party. While, if forced to make a choice, I'd say the Republican Party is somewhat more likely to disappear, or be irrelevant for a long time, it wasn't that long ago that the Democrats seemed irrelevant.

I very much hope that a Democrat becomes President in 2020. I have some pretty strong feelings about many of those currently in the mix, but I'm officially uncommitted, although I'm not participating in the Democratic Primary forum.