So no, not shocked.

Ellis was horrible during the trial, but I didn't expect this travesty. I am optimistic you are right.

just what the fuck is wrong with this judge?

This Judge served up "white justice".

A blameless life outside of stealing millions and cheating on millions in taxes. Yeah/ right, Judge!

usually 20 years.

He is also subject to $24.8 Million in restitution. He’s ruined and has another sentence to go.

ManFART is a rich, white, right-winged, treasonous male.

Hell, I'm shocked that a fellow right-winged, attentnion-seeking, ignorant fool judge gave ManFART as much time as he DID tbh.

I was expecting something like 8-10 years.

And, this fuckstick judge will not be the only one he faces.

After Judge Ellis' remarks during trial, it was a relief just for the jury to convict on 8 counts even with one Trumper holdout juror

messages earlier that he was going light on him.

But alas, more sentencing to come.

maybe that's the silver lining. At least this POS will spend four years in prison. I think if he had thrown the book at him and sentenced him to 20 or so years makes a pardon easier as being excessive. Believe me I hope Manafort suffers every day in there - for all the evil he has done.

Our justice system is a fucking joke.

The older I get the more cynical I get, or rather the more realistic I get. In my younger days I really did believe that we lived in a country of some semblance of fairness and equity in our laws and justice. But with each passing decade of my life I've seen so much inequity in the law that I am no longer that little bit naive person who believed that mostly justice would prevail in our country. Then the election of 2000 happened and all of that went out the window when I saw that even the highest court in our land could be compromised.

So no. I wasn't surprised. Actually I'm more surprised that it wasn't less.

Many people on DU still expect that Trump is going to be carted off to prison. They also believed that Bush/Cheney would be prosecuted for war crimes.

There are different standards for different types of people in this country and we need to wake up to the fact that we've been sold a fairy tale about the USA.

"BigmanPigman, life isn't fair. Get used to it". Of course I resisted and said that it should be fair. Eventually I changed careers and became a teacher. Since I was the authority figure in my own classroom I made and enforced the rules. One the first day of school, every year, I told my class that "life isn't fair but in my room it is" and it was! We voted on everything and solved problems by listening to all parties. I quickly became known as the "nice and fair teacher" through siblings, friends and word of mouth. Students I never even taught came up to me at recess to solve arguments is a fair way. I wish life were more like my classroom and I could make it more fair.

There recently was a law and order judge that throws the book at POC defendants who bent over backward to help a young White woman and young White man who were convicted by juries, he was recently reelected for another 6 year term.

He sold his country out.

What he seemed to do was worse than Cohen and he broke his plea deal ... and only got an extra year for it.

When do you recall a rich white collar criminal getting many years in jail for a first offense, no matter how bad the offenses? The only instance I can think of recently was Bernie Madoff and that was because there were so many individual victims (who also happened to be rich).

Mr. Mueller is not finished with Manafort. Also looks like we need a cleanup of the judicial system too. Hopefully, Dems will get to that when they can. Don't despair! There is more to come on Manafort.

That particular judge has had a tilt form Day1.

and he often opposes mandatory minimum sentences - which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as in this instance:

You know if Manafort was working with Obama or a Clinton, the outcome would have been different.

I was thinking 60 to 72 months.

Financial fraud is generally treated like this though alas.

After a history of racism and discrimination in his sentencing, T.S. Ellis certainly needs to be investigated, and removed from his Judicial position. I'm almost to the stance, that every Judge, maybe even Supreme Court Judges, should be given 'Performance Reviews' like the rest of us receive at work. Enough 'demerits' mean removal/termination with no recourse.